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The UK has become the first country in the world to approve the Pfizer/BioNTech jab

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  • WTFH
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    so there is one person from the Covid trial half asleep?
    Allegedly 2 dead and one with spinal damage from the Oxford trial. None of the 3 were over 50 or had underlying health issues.
    ...maybe that’s why it’s gone quiet since it was announced. Who knows?

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  • AtW
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    Also, vaccine for children is very special matter - say current ones are not even tested on them, just as well that it seems that kids seem to be affected less by Covid, however AFAIK with Swine flu mortality was higher for younger rather than older, which is why risk/reward might have favoured using vaccination.

    All that said it's criminal for the Govt to fight such claims - everybody should know that risks exist, but that IF it happens (however unlikely that is) then they won't be fooked over by Govt, simple £5-10 insurance payment can create fund to cover claims.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    I'd say a much bigger issue is what happens long term from mRNA vaccines, nobody knows.

    But for older population whose risk of being dead from Covid can be 20-30% it's a no brainer to take it even if there is a 0.001% losing sleep, beats losing life.
    Definitely and probably a good choice for frontline NHS/Care sector who may be heavily exposed.

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by vetran View Post
    so there is one person from the Covid trial half asleep?
    I'd say a much bigger issue is what happens long term from mRNA vaccines, nobody knows.

    But for older population whose risk of being dead from Covid can be 20-30% it's a no brainer to take it even if there is a 0.001% losing sleep, beats losing life.

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  • vetran
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    "Review of fresh evidence finds jab given to 6 million people in Britain can occasionally cause sleep disorder" - old article: Swine flu vaccine can trigger narcolepsy, UK government concedes | Vaccines and immunisation | The Guardian

    This article - "Todd said there are about 100 people in the UK with narcolepsy caused by Pandemrix."

    100 out of 6 mln is 1 out of 60k - looks like just above vaccine 3rd stage trial numbers of 30-40k.
    so there is one person from the Covid trial half asleep?

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Andy2 View Post
    "Review of fresh evidence finds jab given to 6 million people in Britain can occasionally cause sleep disorder" - old article: Swine flu vaccine can trigger narcolepsy, UK government concedes | Vaccines and immunisation | The Guardian

    This article - "Todd said there are about 100 people in the UK with narcolepsy caused by Pandemrix."

    100 out of 6 mln is 1 out of 60k - looks like just above vaccine 3rd stage trial numbers of 30-40k.

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  • Andy2
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    I hope covid vaccine is not like swine flu vaccine
    Ministers lose fight to stop payouts over swine flu jab narcolepsy cases | Science | The Guardian

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  • AtW
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    Originally posted by Andy2 View Post
    in your case , all the DOOM threads will stop
    I put funding of those into my will, enough until at least 2120 - top 100 world forums

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  • Andy2
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    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    How would you know if somebody actually di
    in your case , all the DOOM threads will stop

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  • darmstadt
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    Seems to be a lot of willy waving going on, will probably all end in tears: Moscow delivers Russia's Sputnik V coronavirus vaccine to clinics | Russia | The Guardian

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