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    DOOM: diesels

    “ Diesel cars have been withdrawn from sale by a leading manufacturer in the clearest sign yet that their days on British roads are numbered.

    The Times has learnt that Honda has stopped selling new diesel cars, with the last vehicles expected to be out of dealerships within a few weeks.

    The Japanese company is the biggest manufacturer to date to ditch diesel in Britain after bringing forward plans to switch to 100 per cent green technology in the next two years.”

    https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/n...arly-mtpfstnzp

    Will anybody think of Swindon?

    #2
    The Diesel engine is very versatile, what is need is clean carbon neutral sulphur free fuel.
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      #3
      Go nuclear or go home!

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        #4
        I wonder what the resale/trade-in value of a new diesel car will be like in a few years time?

        We will all be driving a Tesla soon anyway.
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          #5
          Originally posted by _V_ View Post
          I wonder what the resale/trade-in value of a new diesel car will be like in a few years time?.
          If Trump is re-elected - 60-70 bottle caps max

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            #6
            FOaTw.
            When the fun stops, STOP.

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              #7
              Amazing.. hopefully dealers will start making similar announcements for petrol cars in 5 years or so.

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                #8
                Originally posted by jayn200 View Post
                Amazing.. hopefully dealers will start making similar announcements for petrol cars in 5 years or so.
                I'm pretty sure they will. Diesel, then petrol, then hybrid petrol until only electric and hydrogen remain.

                It's inevitable.
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                  #9
                  diesel engines require more complex aftertreatment system, even the less reliable solutions like LNT (lean NOx trap) is not as robust as an SCR (selective catalytic reduction - the one with adblue tank) and still come with a hefty cost. Fuel system is more complex, air-path... everything to be honest.
                  Gasoline engines(premium ones) are catching up with direct injection turbocharging and other technologies but overall the diesel engine involves more development costs. But once you involve direct injection you stumble into the same old issues of lean charges -> particles and NOx.

                  I might be biased on this one but actually the manufacturers might be playing us with "more eco friendly product" when actually they are working in their own interest and going for the simpler solution and consequently a better margin for them.

                  Until we can see reliable gasoline hybrids implemented on everything I won't believe them that it is actually about emissions. Similar to how engineering cars so they last about 3-4y instead of 10y creates more waste but hey... sales is sales.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by AtW View Post
                    Go nuclear or go home!


                    You have to fill it up every 100 years, how inconvenient.
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