Grant Shapps ****s up again

[darmstadt]

So typical of this Tory government:

Transport Secretary Grant Shapps announces Brits coming from France will have to quarantine from Sunday

But official government advice is:

The following countries and territories will be removed from the travel corridor list at 4am, Saturday 15 August 2020:

• Aruba
• France
• Malta
• Monaco
• the Netherlands
• Turks and Caicos Islands

Airfares, train fares and french petrol stations along the Autoroute del Soleil have all put their prices up, people have booked to travel on Friday are now ****ed, well done that man

[Mordac]

So typical of this Tory government:



But official government advice is:



Airfares, train fares and french petrol stations along the Autoroute del Soleil have all put their prices up, people have booked to travel on Friday are now ****ed, well done that man

Blame Shapps if you like, but anyone travelling should have known the risk. Well done to the Government for bringing this in quickly, and not dicking around for days for fear of pissing-off the French.
You could always simply ignore the quarantine order, which is impossible to enforce, and take your chances. I'm sure you won't be caught.

[darmstadt]

Blame Shapps if you like, but anyone travelling should have known the risk. Well done to the Government for bringing this in quickly, and not dicking around for days for fear of pissing-off the French.
You could always simply ignore the quarantine order, which is impossible to enforce, and take your chances. I'm sure you won't be caught.

Actually it just goes to show that Shapps is a ******* idiot.

I'm actually wondering how they would enforce the quarantine if you drove back from Europe and had to go through France or Holland or Belgium. The official advice is that if you don't get out of your car then you don't need to, so how many people are just going to ignore this and continue as they were? How many of these people might be bringing CV-19 back to the UK? Surely it would be better to either say you can't come back for at least another 2 weeks or when they do come back, put them up in hotels or camps until the quarantine period is over

[SueEllen]

Actually it just goes to show that Shapps is a ******* idiot.

I'm actually wondering how they would enforce the quarantine if you drove back from Europe and had to go through France or Holland or Belgium. The official advice is that if you don't get out of your car then you don't need to, so how many people are just going to ignore this and continue as they were? How many of these people might be bringing CV-19 back to the UK? Surely it would be better to either say you can't come back for at least another 2 weeks or when they do come back, put them up in hotels or camps until the quarantine period is over

Don't be silly that means the government would have to be organised and can't blame the public if things screw up.

Oddly in NZ they aren't blaming the government.

[Mordac]

Actually it just goes to show that Shapps is a ******* idiot.

I can't argue against that, but trying to be objective for a moment (you should try that sometime) he's damned if he does and damned if he doesn't. Anyone who travels 'anywhere' is playing Russian Roulette with the ever changing regulations, which is why we're staying in the south of England where we're only about 2 hrs drive from home should anything go wrong.

I'm actually wondering how they would enforce the quarantine if you drove back from Europe and had to go through France or Holland or Belgium. The official advice is that if you don't get out of your car then you don't need to, so how many people are just going to ignore this and continue as they were? How many of these people might be bringing CV-19 back to the UK? Surely it would be better to either say you can't come back for at least another 2 weeks or when they do come back, put them up in hotels or camps until the quarantine period is over

They know that quarantine is 'advisory' - it isn't possible to keep tabs on half-a-million+ people, so it can never be enforced. Putting them in hotels isn't an option, everything's booked, either by people staying here, or by Serco.
If people are bringing CV-19 back with them, it's because they are irresponsible feckwits, and no Government can legislate for that.

[NotAllThere]

Blame Shapps if you like, but anyone travelling should have known the risk.

You can definitely blame Shapps for getting the date wrong. Risk is irrelevant to that argument.

[Mordac]

You can definitely blame Shapps for getting the date wrong*. Risk is irrelevant to that argument.

*I missed that, Darmy forgot to post a link. His blood pressure must be nuclear by now.

The risk is that the rules may change at short notice, I don't see what difference it makes whether he got the date wrong. We have known for at least a week that France was going to be on the list, anyone travelling anywhere is taking a risk.

[Rearden Metal]

So typical of this Tory government:



But official government advice is:



Airfares, train fares and french petrol stations along the Autoroute del Soleil have all put their prices up, people have booked to travel on Friday are now ****ed, well done that man

Mick Jones' cousin, apparently.

[darmstadt]

It just means that you failed to comprehend the original post. I'm not blaming him for bringing it in, just the fact he got the dates wrong causing untold problems for a lot of people

*I missed that, Darmy forgot to post a link. His blood pressure must be nuclear by now.

The risk is that the rules may change at short notice, I don't see what difference it makes whether he got the date wrong. We have known for at least a week that France was going to be on the list, anyone travelling anywhere is taking a risk.

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[Mordac]

It just means that you failed to comprehend the original post. I'm not blaming him for bringing it in, just the fact he got the dates wrong causing untold problems for a lot of people

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Try to use a normal sized font, if you're emphasising the difference between a Saturday and a Sunday. If in doubt, ignore the quarantine, and blame Grant Shapps for misleading the public.