The most disadvantaged Group?

[SueEllen]

It's hard because you are a Mor On level of stupid, if you were smart you'd concede the poin, admit your were badly wrong about it all your life and thank me for opening your eyes.

The problem is you are an immigrant who sees the UK as a land of opportunity if you pull your finger out.

White working/underclass boys and their parents due to their ethnicity and sex expect to be on top and get jobs without any effort.

[AtW]

The problem is you are an immigrant who sees the UK as a land of opportunity if you pull your finger out.

How is it a problem?

Or should I have said - whose?

[jayn200]

The problem is you are an immigrant who sees the UK as a land of opportunity if you pull your finger out.

White working/underclass boys and their parents due to their ethnicity and sex expect to be on top and get jobs without any effort.

I really don't think they expect to be on top without any effort. If you haven't come from a poor disadvantaged background you just don't get it. I grew up in poverty and am white and a male. My parents just didn't understand how to get out of that situation. It was pure survival for them. All they thought about the entire time growing up was how they were going to pay rent and possibly feed us(if they had enough money left over). There was absolutely no thought about superiority we all understood we were at the bottom of society. Your statement is really ignorant and obviously coming from someone who grew up in a very privileged situation.

It's a cycle, our parents didn't teach us because their parents didn't teach them. I have 4 siblings and we are all working really hard to teach each other about careers, finances, etc and working hard to break that cycle. None of us went to uni until we were in our late 20s because that's how long it took one of my siblings to figure out that's what we needed to do to get ahead. It's taking us much longer to find success but that's okay.

I definitely agree it's an advantage just being born in a 1st world country, especially one that educates in English (or German and possibly french to a lesser degree) if we were born somewhere else we wouldn't have the opportunity to break this cycle. Your statement is just filled with hatred of people you don't understand.

[TheGreenBastard]

The problem is you are an immigrant who sees the UK as a land of opportunity if you pull your finger out.

White working/underclass boys and their parents due to their ethnicity and sex expect to be on top and get jobs without any effort.

Grossly ignorant.

[SueEllen]

I really don't think they expect to be on top without any effort. If you haven't come from a poor disadvantaged background you just don't get it. I grew up in poverty and am white and a male. My parents just didn't understand how to get out of that situation. It was pure survival for them. All they thought about the entire time growing up was how they were going to pay rent and possibly feed us(if they had enough money left over). There was absolutely no thought about superiority we all understood we were at the bottom of society. Your statement is really ignorant and obviously coming from someone who grew up in a very privileged situation.

It's a cycle, our parents didn't teach us because their parents didn't teach them. I have 4 siblings and we are all working really hard to teach each other about careers, finances, etc and working hard to break that cycle. None of us went to uni until we were in our late 20s because that's how long it took one of my siblings to figure out that's what we needed to do to get ahead. It's taking us much longer to find success but that's okay.

I definitely agree it's an advantage just being born in a 1st world country, especially one that educates in English (or German and possibly french to a lesser degree) if we were born somewhere else we wouldn't have the opportunity to break this cycle. Your statement is just filled with hatred of people you don't understand.

Lots of presumptions in your post.

I come from a poor disadvantaged background and so do the majority of my friends regardless of their ethnic background. I had guidence because I had elder siblings and some good teachers who my parents listened to before I realised I that certain teachers were altruistic.

I slag of some teachers in my previous posts because a lot of my friends due to the people who inspired them went into teaching in state schools and then left. (I didn't follow them as my teachers talked me out of it long before I left school.) They then found that they were being led by white middle class people who had no concept of both material poverty and the poverty of not understating the system. They also found themselves working in schools parents were actively against them helping their children as they had to put some effort in, most of these parents were from a certain demographic.

[woohoo]

The problem is you are an immigrant who sees the UK as a land of opportunity if you pull your finger out.

White working/underclass boys and their parents due to their ethnicity and sex expect to be on top and get jobs without any effort.

Ignorant comment full of hate. Showing your true colours.

[SueEllen]

Ignorant comment full of hate. Showing your true colours.

What that I'm not a white working class male?

[woohoo]

What that I'm not a white working class male?

No idea what that means. But you just attributed a whole load of negative attributes to a group based on their colour and sex.

Nasty bit of work arent you.

[AtW]

No idea what that means. But you just attributed a whole load of negative attributes to a group based on their colour and sex.

Nasty bit of work arent you.

Go boil your head!

[woohoo]

Go boil your head!

Amazing, we are talking about helping the most disadvantaged children and it comes down to this.