The most disadvantaged Group?

[SueEllen]

I consider people like Tommy Robinson to be the extreme ultra right, violent thugs. I don't even think saying left or right is the issue. Some of the law for helping disadvantaged groups that excludes poor white boys was voted for by the conservatives, typically considered the right.

What exact laws are those?

White working class kids in diverse areas like kids from ethnic minority backgrounds have actually identified as having additional needs in decent state schools for decades.

The main issue my teacher and ex-teacher mates find/found is that their parents often don't wish to engage with them when they are trying to help their child making educating the child very difficult. This is ignoring the difficulties they had with their leadership team at their schools who tend to be white and middle class with openly prejudice attitudes to working class people regardless of ethnicity.

[SueEllen]

Oh and the stories of kids without special needs attending primary schools at 5 in nappies, so not toilet trained, and not being able to use cutlery are true. I've heard it from too many different independent sources.

[BlasterBates]

Note that the disadvantaged group are boys, not girls. That's the clue, the girls go to the same schools. It's the "white" culture that's to blame, i.e they all want to grow up to be football "supporters".

[minestrone]

Note that the disadvantaged group are boys, not girls. That's the clue, the girls go to the same schools. It's the "white" culture that's to blame, i.e they all want to grow up to be football "supporters".

I dunno, I've always had you down as disadvantaged.

[woohoo]

What exact laws are those?

White working class kids in diverse areas like kids from ethnic minority backgrounds have actually identified as having additional needs in decent state schools for decades.

The main issue my teacher and ex-teacher mates find/found is that their parents often don't wish to engage with them when they are trying to help their child making educating the child very difficult. This is ignoring the difficulties they had with their leadership team at their schools who tend to be white and middle class with openly prejudice attitudes to working class people regardless of ethnicity.

From the article.
"When Ben Bradley, the Conservative MP for Mansfield, tried to ask an ‘Equalities’ question about working-class white boys in parliament earlier this year, he was turned down by the Table Office because they do not have any ‘protected characteristics’. The concept of ‘protected characteristics’ was wheeled into UK law by Harriet Harman’s Equality Act, ten years ago, and the Tories, then in opposition, took the rare step of voting for it. The nine protected characteristics include ‘race’, ‘sex’ and ‘sexual orientation’, but the Table Office is not alone in interpreting these as ‘non-white’, ‘female’ and ‘gay’."

[woohoo]

Oh and the stories of kids without special needs attending primary schools at 5 in nappies, so not toilet trained, and not being able to use cutlery are true. I've heard it from too many different independent sources.

Yep that happens when you have big areas of very poor people, with years of lack of education and support.

I really find this amazing, not one of you is arguing what can we do for this white boys from crappy backgrounds, but are happy to say well its the parents fault blah blah blah.

There needs to be investment in schools and teachers in these areas for a sustained period of time. There needs to be investment in the areas to improve prospects. The expectation of going to university needs to be introduced into these kids lives.

I can see why politicians arent arsed, there are no votes in helping poor, white males.

[AtW]

People are lucky enough to be born in this country, especially if they are white, who certainly face less (near zero surely) discrimination - it’s super fooking lucky, having English mother tongue already offers a lot more opportunities, so they should stop whining and work hard to achieve set goals - nobody else is going to do it for them, or anybody else for that matter.

[woohoo]

People are lucky enough to be born in this country, especially if they are white, who certainly face less (near zero surely) discrimination - it’s super fooking lucky, having English mother tongue already offers a lot more opportunities, so they should stop whining and work hard to achieve set goals - nobody else is going to do it for them, or anybody else for that matter.

It's hard to argue with this level of stupid.

[AtW]

It's hard to argue with this level of stupid.

It's hard because you are a Mor On level of stupid, if you were smart you'd concede the poin, admit your were badly wrong about it all your life and thank me for opening your eyes.

[SueEllen]

It's hard to argue with this level of stupid.

He isn't being stupid.

There is only so much a individual teacher can do with a child whose parents don't support them learning, and a leadership team who tends to be white middle class who think they have no chance.