Oh Dear - Bliar tells judges to stop jailing crims

[BrollyBabe]

I don't understand were they or were they not found guilty?

I think so. Google it

[Troll]

John Alan West was a 53 year-old laundry van driver of Workington, Cumbria, England, murdered by two men on 7 April 1964. His murder was to lead to the last executions in Britain.

John West, who lived alone, had returned to his home on 6 April 1964. At about 3:00 am the following morning his next-door neighbour was awoken by a noise in West's house and, looking out of the window, observed a car disappearing down the street. The neighbour called the police, who found West dead from severe head injuries and a stab wound to the chest. In his house the police found a raincoat with a medallion and an Army Memo Form in its pockets. The medallion was inscribed G.O. Evans, July, 1961 and the memo form had the name Norma O'Brien on it, together with a Liverpool address. Norma O'Brien was a 17 year-old Liverpool factory worker who told the police that in 1963, while staying with her sister and brother-in-law in Preston, she had met a man called 'Ginger' Owen Evans. She also confirmed that she had seen Evans wearing the medallion.

48 hours after West's murder, Gwynne Owen Evans (real name John Robson Welby (or Walby)) and Peter Allen were arrested and charged with the crime. Evans lodged with Allen and his wife in Preston, and was also found to have a watch inscribed to West in his pocket. Both had criminal records.

Although Evans blamed Allen for beating West, he admitted to stealing the watch and under further questioning it became clear that he had masterminded the whole incident. In his turn, Allen stated that they had stolen a car in Preston and driven over to West's house so that Evans could "borrow" some money from his one-time workmate.

When Allen and Evans were tried together at Manchester Crown Court in July 1964, the charge against them was capital murder, as the murder of West had been committed in the course of theft. During the trial the judge asked the jury to decide if the murder had actually been committed by one of the two men alone; in the latter case the other would only be found guilty of non-capital murder at the most. The jury found both men equally guilty, and both were sentenced to death by hanging.

Gwynne Owen Evans was hanged by the executioner Harry Allen at Manchester's Strangeways Prison at 8.00 a.m. on 13 August 1964. At the same time, Peter Allen was hanged at Liverpool's Walton Prison by Robert Leslie Stewart.

[BrollyBabe]

I said in England. Ruth Ellis was the last person hung in Britain and it was self defence, she shouldnt have been hung. It was because of HER hanging that the law changed

[PartyGirl]

Unfortunately I think BB is right. Her boyfriend used to beat her and therefore people think it to have been self defence.
this was in the 1950's.

[The Lone Gunman]

I said in England. Ruth Ellis was the last person hung in Britain and it was self defence, she shouldnt have been hung. It was because of HER hanging that the law changed

I think you will find Ruth Ellis was the last WOMAN to receive a death sentence in Britain, not the last of either gender.

[PartyGirl]

Ok so who was the last person (of both genders)

[BrollyBabe]

Ok I was wrong

Albert Pierrepoint is often referred to as Britain's last hangman, but this is not true — executions continued until 13 August 1964 when Gwynne Owen Evans was hanged at 8.00 a.m. at Strangeways Prison by Harry Allen, while Peter Anthony Allen was hanged simultaneously at Walton Prison, Liverpool by Robert Leslie Stewart, both for the murder in a robbery of John Alan West

[Troll]

Unfortunately I think BB is right. Her boyfriend used to beat her and therefore people think it to have been self defence.
this was in the 1950's.

You must be a female

Ruth suspected David was having an affair with a freinds nanny , although in truth he wasn't.
So in a pique of jealousy and rejection on Easter Sunday afternoon (the 10th of April 1955), Ruth persuaded her other boyfriend, Desmond Cussen, to drive her to Hampstead where she lay in wait for Blakely outside the Magdala public house in South Hill Park where he and Findlater were drinking.
When they came out to the car at around 9.30 p.m., she called to David who ignored her, so armed with a 38 calibre revolver she fired a first shot and then pursued him round the car firing a second shot, which caused him to collapse onto the pavement. She then stood over him and emptied the remaining 4 bullets into him, as he lay wounded on the ground.

Some self defence!! HTH

[Churchill]

She then stood over him and emptied the remaining 4 bullets into him, as he lay wounded on the ground.

Are you sure it wasn't a case of protecting national security?

[PartyGirl]

Yes I am female hense the name Party Girl lol. Ok so I was wrong but if i thought my other hal was having an affair I would do damage as well.