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Originally posted by Whorty View PostWe need a referendum on this
I love how on the one hand, everyone the masses are complaining that we have lockdown, no freedom blah blah blah, then on the other hand they're complaining that we didn't lock down soon enough, we want the government to dictate our lives and we can't think for ourselves so will only do what Boris tells us.
The country is full of idiots.
Let's not forget that, whilst the death rate is higher for covid compared to the Flu, there is still a specific risk profile of those most likely to get very ill and/or die of this illness; the old, those with underlying health conditions, smokers, the obese (and this is BMI 30+, not just really big fatties).
Unfortunately the UK has a lot of old people, a lot of fatties and far too many smokers. From day one we should have put all the resources into protecting the care homes/older folks and those will serious underlying health conditions, but instead we instead tried to protect the general population and ignored the private care sector and left the poor sods who live their to the private companies that run them. Bad move.
What this illness has shone a light on is how badly the private care sector is run. Care homes have been locked down since February and yet, despite allowing no visitors in, their infection and death rate is significant. Maybe the only 'positive' from all this, is that the care sector gets a much needed overhaul when this is over.
Careful with that one, I know a Private care home manager & she speaks to her peers in the industry, its her view that 95% of care home deaths are ones run by LA / NHS, i.e. public ones, now this is just "what I have been told" so I can't verify it, but, as ever, more data is needed - specifically who runs the care homes where the infections are happening?Growing old is mandatory
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Originally posted by mudskipper View PostI suspect when this is over, there will be no money for anything.Comment
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Originally posted by rootsnall View PostI think they do but I'm not sure they understand that the magic money tree will die long before the virus.Comment
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Originally posted by CheeseSlice View PostI thought that we would surely want to resume normal life...
The lockdown easing strategy doesn't help us get back to this at all.
Think of it like a journey, say from Bristol (J20) to London (J1) on the M4.
This first step takes us to J19.
One day we'll reach the sunny uplands of Swindon.Scoots still says that Apr 2020 didn't mark the start of a new stock bull market.Comment
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Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostThere is another way. If you couldn't give a toss if 1,000,000 people die in the UK over the next 6 months, you could lift all restrictions, overwhelm the NHS, dig mass graves, and those that survive can buy a new car and get some nice new clothes and stuff.
HTH BIDI
Originally posted by DimPrawn View PostLook at the stock market, booming, make the super rich into the hyper rich.
Originally posted by Old Greg View PostPeople often (rightly) point out the economic cost of lockdown. But they never seem to calculate the economic cost of no lockdown.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostThe NHS doesn't have to be overwhelmed. Just have soldiers applying triage on the entry roads.
I know. Good isn't it. My portfolio is up to where it was last September. That cat must be made of Flubber.
I seem to recall that an "average" person being killed half way through their expected life will cost the economy about £7 million. Can't remember where I read it though. But if the greater the percentage of the workforce lost, the greater the economic loss.Comment
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostPeople often (rightly) point out the economic cost of lockdown. But they never seem to calculate the economic cost of no lockdown.Comment
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Originally posted by rootsnall View PostI think there are no magic answers but long term lockdown definitely isn't one of them. People are having to work to keep us fed, the lights on etc so I don't see why people think they have a right to live risk free in lockdown.Comment
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