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    #11
    Originally posted by KinooOrKinog View Post
    Same here. I don't know what to make of that at all. I mean, are they even allowed to do that? Would you be classed as a volunteer? Extremely shady.
    It's quite common apparently. They would be funded by their wealthy parents, who treat it as extended work experience, and usually leads to a job which they might struggle to get via the usual route.
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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      #12
      Originally posted by Mordac View Post
      It's quite common apparently. They would be funded by their wealthy parents, who treat it as extended work experience, and usually leads to a job which they might struggle to get via the usual route.
      Look if they're good enough to do it for free, they're good enough to get paid. If the company is genuinely bearing some cost to train them then just make it a lower salary. It's how apprenticeships work. But this role isn't even on a par with an apprenticeship. It's not some low grade, entry level, straight out of school job. They're trying to exploit people.
      I'm actually fuming now.
      If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcastically

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        #13
        Originally posted by KinooOrKinog View Post
        Look if they're good enough to do it for free, they're good enough to get paid. If the company is genuinely bearing some cost to train them then just make it a lower salary. It's how apprenticeships work. But this role isn't even on a par with an apprenticeship. It's not some low grade, entry level, straight out of school job. They're trying to exploit people.
        I'm actually fuming now.
        I completely agree, the worry is some deluded soul might believe this will turn into paid work and take it. I've been offered a cut in a company for my time on a project outside my day job, and almost took it as it meant some experience on some tech I was interested in.

        But just turning up for free in the hope of jam tomorrow, I do not have that level of trust in people.

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          #14
          Originally posted by PlanB View Post
          I completely agree, the worry is some deluded soul might believe this will turn into paid work and take it. I've been offered a cut in a company for my time on a project outside my day job, and almost took it as it meant some experience on some tech I was interested in.

          But just turning up for free in the hope of jam tomorrow, I do not have that level of trust in people.
          I assume what they think they'll end up with is a team of skilled consultants working for free, making more profit for them. Maybe I've got too much time to think about things, but I'm raging at the concept. And I'm a capitalist!
          If you don't have anything nice to say, say it sarcastically

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            #15
            That's nothing

            Try:

            Pay to fly - Wikipedia
            "Don't part with your illusions; when they are gone you may still exist, but you have ceased to live" Mark Twain

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              #16
              Originally posted by KinooOrKinog View Post
              I'm raging at the concept. And I'm a capitalist!
              It's supply vs demand. Price is something that results when both are equal.
              I feel your pain though.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Mordac View Post
                It's quite common apparently. They would be funded by their wealthy parents, who treat it as extended work experience, and usually leads to a job which they might struggle to get via the usual route.
                To get anywhere these days you need wealthy parents. Social mobility is almost dead.

                Hopefully soon we will get COVID-70. It will kill all those aged 70+ and restore some balance to the UK.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                  To get anywhere these days you need wealthy parents. Social mobility is almost dead.

                  Hopefully soon we will get COVID-70. It will kill all those aged 70+ and restore some balance to the UK.
                  Education, work opportunities and affordable housing were the main drivers of social mobility from the 40s to 80s. That is now gone and all we have left in the future is an exploding population, with ensuing inflation of finite resources and automation requiring fewer humans to do anything.

                  Killing off the over 70s won't solve anything, the money will just be recycled into the system and spunked away by kids and grandkids. Until we fix out of control population growth or find another planet the future is set to ever increasing crapiness until we reach a crunch point.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by PlanB View Post
                    Killing off the over 70s won't solve anything, the money will just be recycled into the system and spunked away by kids and grandkids. Until we fix out of control population growth or find another planet the future is set to ever increasing crapiness until we reach a crunch point.
                    That is where we disagree. Enforced sale of loads of houses would give younger people a chance to pick up property at a not-too-inflated-price. The inherited money would therefore reduce.

                    I still think 100% death duties would be a good idea.

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                      #20
                      I still think 100% death duties would be a good idea
                      The problem with that, as with so many socialist ideas that sound good in principle, is that it would destroy incentive. We put ourselves, our families, friends, relatives and those like us first, it's human nature. If people know the wealth they work for is just going to be shared out among compete strangers and they have no input in deciding who deserves it, they are going to stop bothering.
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                      If everything isn't black and white, I say, 'Why the hell not?'
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