A view of IR35 from a hiring manager

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All the highly paid devs I know became contractors. Most of the permies I've worked with have been *woefully* underpaid. I once joined a company as a permie, couple of years experience total on something like 35k, to find another guy there was on 28k. He'd been with the company *fourteen years*. He was doing virtually the same thing I was hired for.

Every time I see this situation I wince but I see it a lot. He was too scared to leave.

Approximately 7 years ago I was at a dinner celebrating the new undersea fiber link between Manchester and Dublin and happened to have a chat with a guy I've known for a few years from "Thoughtworks" he was bemoaning the fact that he couldn't recruit decent software engineers. I asked him if he was still offering £30k for a Senior Developer, he said yes, and I said "Well there's your answer!" - his response of "Not everyone is motivated by money!" nearly had me choking on my Cognac!

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Approximately 7 years ago I was at a dinner celebrating the new undersea fiber link between Manchester and Dublin and happened to have a chat with a guy I've known for a few years from "Thoughtworks" he was bemoaning the fact that he couldn't recruit decent software engineers. I asked him if he was still offering £30k for a Senior Developer, he said yes, and I said "Well there's your answer!" - his response of "Not everyone is motivated by money!" nearly had me choking on my Cognac!

don't worry soon we will have highly skilled migrants over on £25K.