Lib Dems promise to review IR35

[MasterBait]

reviewing doesn't necessarily mean improving.

True. but so far the other parties are not even considering anything around IR35 at all.

[malvolio]

Not easy if you work for banks, or other large companies, which adopt a policy of deeming everyone inside.

I didn't say it was easy. You can change how you work or what you deliver to clients. You can change how you find work. You can challenge "deeming everyone" on the basis that the law says there have to be individual assessments. You can agree to be inside IR35 but look for a rate rise of 25-30% to recover your losses. And on and on...

It's already a mess. The least contractors can aim for is to make it hard for clients to say "inside or permie" and easier - and a hell of a lot cheaper - to persuade them to look at putting people outside.

[adubya]

– Reviewing the tax and National Insurance status of employees, dependent
contractors and freelancers to ensure fair and comparable treatment.

Nice !

[Rebel]

Seems like the only party that is interested at looking at this.

[malvolio]

Seems like the only party that is interested at looking at this.

Nonsense. They've read IPSE's publicity about 5 million freelance workers, which equates to 5 million voters, and are offering bribes. No way will they actually repeal IR35, even if they were anywhere close to being able to.

[Rebel]

Nonsense. They've read IPSE's publicity about 5 million freelance workers, which equates to 5 million voters, and are offering bribes. No way will they actually repeal IR35, even if they were anywhere close to being able to.

So we have no chance then.

[meridian]

Nonsense. They've read IPSE's publicity about 5 million freelance workers, which equates to 5 million voters, and are offering bribes. No way will they actually repeal IR35, even if they were anywhere close to being able to.

Vote Tory to register your approval of their direction of travel towards contractors. Don’t bother using your vote elsewhere to try to influence their position.

Under no circumstances whatsoever vote for a party that might consider reviewing it.

[meridian]

So we have no chance then.

Not if you take his advice and drop your trousers, waiting to be shafted even more.

[malvolio]

Not if you take his advice and drop your trousers, waiting to be shafted even more.

That's not my advice. Try reading what I've been saying, along with many others,for the last few years.

[meridian]

That's not my advice. Try reading what I've been saying, along with many others,for the last few years.

You have some good advice overall for contractors to get themselves into positions that avoid IR 35. However, you seem to have a curious blind spot when it comes to the politics behind it and while you’re willing to explore negotiating the rules themselves, you’re unwilling to explore changing the people that make those rules.

What you’re saying, today, is for people to continue voting for the Leopards Eating People’s Faces Party.