Fake news or freedom of speech?

[Jog On]

Trump boasts about doing what E. Jean Carroll accuses him of

Sounds like bang to rights then, I guess it's goodbye Donald then!

[Old Greg]

So he hasn't been found guilty then

That's right. But that doesn't mean it's not true.

[Jog On]

That's right. But that doesn't mean it's not true.

It's a shame they keep trying to use rape accusations instead of better policies.

[Old Greg]

It's a shame they keep trying to use rape accusations instead of better policies.

It's not an either / or.

[Jog On]

It's not an either / or.

No it's an "again? Really? "

Thank Stormy Daniels for that situation

[Jog On]

Sounds like bang to rights then, I guess it's goodbye Donald then!

That's right. But that doesn't mean it's not true.

Just listened to he transcript - you're right he absolutely did do it. He made a move on her, took her furniture shopping and she turned him down.

This is why people don't take liberals seriously anymore. When your whole argument is "He's a ****ist!" and then it turns out not to be true you forfeit the argument.

They've had 3 years to come up with some good points to campaign on and they're just reverting back to the racist/#metoo thing... How very sad. They could go after him on several policy decisions, broken election promises but no...

For the record I only care about actions and results, so far there ISIS have gone, there's no war with Iran, NK and East West relations can start to thaw after that retarded Mueller investigation has been exposed as another piece of liberal patheticism.

All you warmongers who want confrontations with Iran/Russia etc - you go fight it and send your kids as well.

[WTFH]

For the record I only care about actions and results, so far there ISIS have gone, there's no war with Iran, NK and East West relations can start to thaw after that retarded Mueller investigation has been exposed as another piece of liberal patheticism.

And when the extreme right in the US were saying that if Obama spoke to NK, it would be disgraceful, but now they’ve flip-flopped to say that it’s a wonderful thing for a president to negotiate - you think that’s good?
Or what about Iran - they’re making more radioactive material as a direct result of Trump pulling the US out of an agreement.

Are these examples of the most amazing human being in the world, or liberal patheticism?

[Old Greg]

Just listened to he transcript - you're right he absolutely did do it. He made a move on her, took her furniture shopping and she turned him down.

This is why people don't take liberals seriously anymore. When your whole argument is "He's a ****ist!" and then it turns out not to be true you forfeit the argument.

They've had 3 years to come up with some good points to campaign on and they're just reverting back to the racist/#metoo thing... How very sad. They could go after him on several policy decisions, broken election promises but no...

For the record I only care about actions and results, so far there ISIS have gone, there's no war with Iran, NK and East West relations can start to thaw after that retarded Mueller investigation has been exposed as another piece of liberal patheticism.

All you warmongers who want confrontations with Iran/Russia etc - you go fight it and send your kids as well.

I didn't say he did do it. I'm just amused at how trigerred you are by the allegation, and that you, without a shred of evidence, call it a smear.

[Jog On]

And when the extreme right in the US were saying that if Obama spoke to NK, it would be disgraceful, but now they’ve flip-flopped to say that it’s a wonderful thing for a president to negotiate - you think that’s good?
Or what about Iran - they’re making more radioactive material as a direct result of Trump pulling the US out of an agreement.

Are these examples of the most amazing human being in the world, or liberal patheticism?

Who cares what the extreme right think? All I care about is actions and results - Trump's foreign policy so far has been very restrained despite having to contend with the likes of MaCain and Bolton. Obama destroyed Libya, continued Iraq, created ISIS and the refugee crisis. Real numbers, real lives, children not drowning in the sea is what counts to me.

I didn't say he did do it. I'm just amused at how trigerred you are by the allegation, and that you, without a shred of evidence, call it a smear.

Eh you said "That's right. But that doesn't mean it's not true." - very non committal and gives you the opportunity to backtrack I know but you're still using the 'he's a wapist' argument to try and shut down the debate rather than talk about points and policy.

There isn't a shred of evidence he raped anyone either but you say that 'doesn't mean it's not true'. If you're demanding evidence of something then maybe produce some for your own assertion. Or are you going to play the 'I never said it actually happened just hinted that it might have whereas you said something absolute' card?

Yes it does frustrate me to see the democrats still following the identity politics/metoo line of attack. I'd much rather they were coming up with some better ideas and solutions.

Oh well - let them carry on I suppose. If they need another Trump situation to learn the lesson then so be it.

[vadhert]

That site is gold.

Creepy Joe 2020