Calling all IPSE Members

[malvolio]

Time out, children!

Whatever you think of IPSE, there is currently a lot of discussion going on about the manner in which the board are choosing to change aspects of its governance.

Now, a lot of members won't give a fudge about this as long as the insurance pays out when they need it to. However, we know that there are also a lot of members who do care about these things and we'd like to make sure they know what the changes could mean for future running of the organisation.

All we're trying to ensure is that all members are aware of an alternative point of view, and take the time to ask whatever questions they need to, of the board, before they vote.

So what is your alternative...?

[contractorinatractor]

Sooo let's get this straight:
If I want to vote I have to trawl their forums, posts, articles, hope I don't miss anything and make a decision based on aggregate info I find myself rather than a few bulletpoints for/against from both sides or a single For article and single Against article? Have IPSE been smoking meth?!

My sub is due in January. I won't be renewing. The organisation seems to be a glory contest for people who wish to flatter themselves rather than instigate true change. I also notice I receive a lot of emails - mostly marketing guff for junk offers - that have nothing to do with the core of what most members likely want which is a robust organisation to progress contractor (no, not deliveroo folk; sorry) interests and help inform the government and masses at large of just what we do, how we do it and why we do it.

The main issue I can see is the IPSE board want sweeping changes, partially hidden and not 100% explicit versus a CC who are rightly protesting but want the removal of members of the board. On both sides: why the iron fists? Calm down and negotiate properly.

Won't be paying any more fees. Both sides can get to **** as far as I'm concerned.

[GhostofTarbera]

why the iron fists? Calm down and negotiate properly.
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Because the board presented a done deal with NO possible negotiations

The unpaid volunteer elected by the membership CC tried its hardest to engage but were rejected at every avenue




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[malvolio]

Because the board presented a done deal with NO possible negotiations

The unpaid volunteer elected by the membership CC tried its hardest to engage but were rejected at every avenue




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The history is much more complex than that. We could (in fact, should) ask why the BoD weren't engaging with the CC, for example. We could also ask what are the options different to the proposal on the table that will effect a proper long term solution to whatever the problem actually is. And so on...

Were we really cynical we could ask why just over half the CC are fighting to retain a power they don't actually possess and why some CC have resigned.

The end result of all this is that nothing that IPSE does for its members is under any kind of threat, now or in the future. That seems to have got lost in the noise. In fact the only threat is the campaign to remove IPSE's chairman in protest, which will do far more harm politically than the governance changes under dispute, and will weaken their position with HMG significantly.

[GreenMirror]

I would like to remind all posters that although this is General, there is still a modicum of moderation here.

No coming to blows please.

Bah!

It was quite fun having the non IPSE posters standing round chanting "fight fight fight"....

[GreenMirror]

will weaken their position with HMG significantly.

It can get weaker?

[malvolio]

It can get weaker?

It's far stronger than most believe, so yes, this is potentially damaging.

[mudskipper]

It's far stronger than most believe, so yes, this is potentially damaging.

I agree with mal on this - IPSE do have more influence than is immediately apparent, and the governance stuff is a distraction that, fortunately for those of us who are members, won't stop the staff from doing their job.

At the end of the day c 90% of the members won't care about which way the AGM vote goes and it probably won't make an obvious difference, but for those of us who do care it's important that people do realise what it is that they're voting for.

[BR14]

It's far stronger than most believe, so yes, this is potentially damaging.

yes, the force is strong with ipse wan

[Old Greg]

Gosh IPSE sounds fun right now! Even worse than the Brexit firum?

I have a mind to join to access the forums...

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