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    #51
    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    If they survive by forcing customers to pay more for the competition then perhaps they should not survive. If we can't compete on cheapness then we need to compete on quality and high tec.
    Double Doh!
    Hard Brexit now!
    #prayfornodeal

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      #52
      Originally posted by NigelJK View Post
      As I thought, no actual blocks then, just tariffs. And for the record I don't bother with any of the mainstream news outlets they all have their own agenda.
      absolutely right "just tariffs" like the ones they introduced in the 1930's

      only enough to cost thousands of jobs
      Last edited by BlasterBates; 1 June 2018, 11:12.
      I'm alright Jack

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        #53
        Originally posted by sasguru View Post
        Which Indian bike is at the cutting edge of technological sophistication, safety, build quality and desirability?
        AFAIK the Royal Enfield is popular in the Uk among some enthusiasts purely because of nostalgia - it's essentiallly a copy of a 50s bike.
        Once again you're going from North Korea at one end to cutting edge desirability like Bugatti to prove your point which is quite sad. Take a look at the new BMW 310 being developed in India with TVS as a case in point. It will sell well locally and will be exported to Europe also.

        Since you are obsessed with Royal Enfield for some reason note the huge rise in sales they have had over the past 10 years domestically and internationally and the new 650 twin that is on the horizon and a new r&d division here in UK. So your point about Royal Enfield turning out tired old bikes as a result of protectionism isn't valid.

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          #54
          Originally posted by ContractorOnAMotorbike View Post
          Once again you're going from North Korea at one end to cutting edge desirability like Bugatti to prove your point which is quite sad. Take a look at the new BMW 310 being developed in India with TVS as a case in point. It will sell well locally and will be exported to Europe also.

          Since you are obsessed with Royal Enfield for some reason note the huge rise in sales they have had over the past 10 years domestically and internationally and the new 650 twin that is on the horizon and a new r&d division here in UK. So your point about Royal Enfield turning out tired old bikes as a result of protectionism isn't valid.
          To be fair though...
          Originally posted by sasguru
          I'm not an expert...
          Please cut the diptulip some slack.
          Old Greg - In search of acceptance since Mar 2007. Hoping each leap will be his last.

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            #55
            Originally posted by ContractorOnAMotorbike View Post
            Once again you're going from North Korea at one end to cutting edge desirability like Bugatti to prove your point which is quite sad. Take a look at the new BMW 310 being developed in India with TVS as a case in point. It will sell well locally and will be exported to Europe also.

            Since you are obsessed with Royal Enfield for some reason note the huge rise in sales they have had over the past 10 years domestically and internationally and the new 650 twin that is on the horizon and a new r&d division here in UK. So your point about Royal Enfield turning out tired old bikes as a result of protectionism isn't valid.
            Yes India might export a few motorbikes to the EU, but there are strict quotas. The UK exports hundreds of thousands of cars to the EU.
            I'm alright Jack

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              #56
              Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
              You only have to spend 10 minutes listening to LBC to know the UK is going to hell in a hand cart.

              Personally I blame tabloid newspapers after years of shoving their tripe down people's throats.

              The Tabloids are merely entertainment, the culprit is state education.

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                #57
                Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
                So you are saying Canada and Mexico are "protectionist"...
                At last, the "Cathy Newman" manoeuvre. No didn't say that at all.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ContractorOnAMotorbike View Post
                  Once again you're going from North Korea at one end to cutting edge desirability like Bugatti to prove your point which is quite sad. Take a look at the new BMW 310 being developed in India with TVS as a case in point. It will sell well locally and will be exported to Europe also.

                  Since you are obsessed with Royal Enfield for some reason note the huge rise in sales they have had over the past 10 years domestically and internationally and the new 650 twin that is on the horizon and a new r&d division here in UK. So your point about Royal Enfield turning out tired old bikes as a result of protectionism isn't valid.
                  https://www.bennetts.co.uk/bikesocia...s-first-review
                  "BMW has contracted the company to build this bike in its own dedicated and sealed production area, with Bavarian staff keeping a very close eye on the quality control. There are automated systems direct from Germany being used to build and check every part. "
                  So in other words the local company is merely being used to bypass India's protectionist laws.
                  How does this prove that protectionism is a good idea in general?
                  I'm pretty sure protectionism has been good to get India's nascent industry started but at some point they'll have to compete on equal terms with international competitors.
                  Last edited by sasguru; 1 June 2018, 12:18.
                  Hard Brexit now!
                  #prayfornodeal

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
                    To be fair though...
                    [Originally Posted by sasguru
                    I'm not an expert...]

                    .
                    Lack of expertise in any subject area is easily fixed with a bit of objective research, congenital cretinism, such as you possess, is, sadly, irremediable.

                    HTH, BIDI.
                    Hard Brexit now!
                    #prayfornodeal

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by TwoWolves View Post
                      The Tabloids are merely entertainment, the culprit is state education.
                      So in which part of your superior education were you taught that protectionism might be a good idea for an advanced economy like the US?
                      I don't think economists always know what they're talking about but there are areas of economics that have empirical evidence attached.
                      For example, price controls seem to be an obvious way to protect poor people but they ususally lead to shortages.
                      And likewise the idea of non-protectionist free trade has been a leitmotif of the UK economy and other EUropean economies since at least the 18th century, simply because it led to greater prosperity.
                      Hard Brexit now!
                      #prayfornodeal

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