Reply from MP about IR35 Reforms

[SueEllen]

Nah, I think I broadly understand where HMRC is coming from and why contractors are worried. The forum posts merely reflect one side of the story, its like asking turkey's view of chrismas, should be taken onboard but that does not get to decide everything.

No you clearly don't as 2 other posters have pointed out.

[fatboyslim]

No you clearly don't as 2 other posters have pointed out.

I have not heard any substantive arguments (other than small businesses being unnecessarily burdened which I concede). So am not going to change my mind.

I usually ignore these kind of arguments, even if some might consider them 'robust' argument.

1. Unnecessary personal remark: You are stupid, your mom should have aborted you coz she is a whore.
2. Vague pointing towards documents: Go read xyz and comeback to argue with me.
3. Argument from authority: I know this sh*t kiddo , I have been doing it longer than you have been on this earth.. bla bla.

It does not matter whether these are true statements or not, just that they have no bearing on what we are discussing, even if I am wrong, it still does not change anything.

Conversely it does not matter who makes the substantial point, or there is spelling mistake or it was put clumsily, I am happy to concede if I can understand it, and it makes logical sense to me.

This reminds me to read up on logical fallacies again, I sometimes resort to it without knowing.

[malvolio]

I have not heard any substantive arguments (other than small businesses being unnecessarily burdened which I concede). So am not going to change my mind.

I usually ignore these kind of arguments, even if some might consider them 'robust' argument.

1. Unnecessary personal remark: You are stupid, your mom should have aborted you coz she is a whore.
2. Vague pointing towards documents: Go read xyz and comeback to argue with me.
3. Argument from authority: I know this sh*t kiddo , I have been doing it longer than you have been on this earth.. bla bla.

It does not matter whether these are true statements or not, just that they have no bearing on what we are discussing, even if I am wrong, it still does not change anything.

Conversely it does not matter who makes the substantial point, or there is spelling mistake or it was put clumsily, I am happy to concede if I can understand it, and it makes logical sense to me.

This reminds me to read up on logical fallacies again, I sometimes resort to it without knowing.

QED...

[mudskipper]

The problem here is the Brandolini principle.

[fatboyslim]

QED...

[Whorty]

I have not heard any substantive arguments (other than small businesses being unnecessarily burdened which I concede). So am not going to change my mind.

I usually ignore these kind of arguments, even if some might consider them 'robust' argument.

1. Unnecessary personal remark: You are stupid, your mom should have aborted you coz she is a whore.
2. Vague pointing towards documents: Go read xyz and comeback to argue with me.
3. Argument from authority: I know this sh*t kiddo , I have been doing it longer than you have been on this earth.. bla bla.

It does not matter whether these are true statements or not, just that they have no bearing on what we are discussing, even if I am wrong, it still does not change anything.

Conversely it does not matter who makes the substantial point, or there is spelling mistake or it was put clumsily, I am happy to concede if I can understand it, and it makes logical sense to me.

This reminds me to read up on logical fallacies again, I sometimes resort to it without knowing.

FFS