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Homeowners must be taxed on equity in homes to address crisis, MPs told

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    #91
    Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
    No - IR35 is more stupid. It's vague in its implementation, and hard to enforce. Taxing assets in such a way that you pay more tax if you pay your mortgage off can be done quite easily and would raise revenue for the government, since in the UK, usually you're obliged to pay off your mortgage after a term.

    Perhaps they'll make it even simpler. No deduction for outstanding mortgage. You pay asset tax on how much you paid for the house.
    1-Have to disagree. It is now very easy to enforce, in that we can assume the public sector rules are about to be enforced on the private sector as well.

    2-I don't think there'll be any shortage of lenders willing to offer a re-mortgage service for impending sellers.

    3-Don't quite understand this, do you mean the difference between purchase and sale price?
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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      #92
      Originally posted by Mordac View Post
      1-Have to disagree. It is now very easy to enforce, in that we can assume the public sector rules are about to be enforced on the private sector as well.
      More and more public sector IT contracts are being advertised out of IR35 - in other words they cannot get the skills.


      Originally posted by Mordac View Post
      2-I don't think there'll be any shortage of lenders willing to offer a re-mortgage service for impending sellers.

      3-Don't quite understand this, do you mean the difference between purchase and sale price?
      He said asset tax is paid on how much you paid for the house.

      That's a bit stupid if you think of house price inflation in the UK. It means someone who brought their house in the 60s or inherited from their parents will pay £4 there as their neighbour who brought it a year ago will pay £4,000.
      "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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        #93
        Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
        He said asset tax is paid on how much you paid for the house.

        That's a bit stupid if you think of house price inflation in the UK.
        Again we come up against the idea (in the face of all the evidence!) that tax law has to be sensible and fair.
        It means someone who brought their house in the 60s or inherited from their parents will pay £4 there as their neighbour who brought it a year ago will pay £4,000.
        Yes. And that would put the brakes on house price inflation - less incentive to buy and sell. I doubt the government would want that, but they are a bunch of incompetent loonies, so who can say?

        Or maybe they'll just use a value based on council tax valuations, as I said at the start. That's already in place so it'd be easy to implement.
        Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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          #94
          Homeowners must be taxed on equity in homes to address crisis, MPs told

          Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
          All leads back to the Taylor report.

          Actually even if they got tax from people being workers rather than self-employed there would still be an issue. The demographic time bomb of people living longer than when the welfare state was designed has been known since the 80s. There aren't enough workers for the number of pensioners.
          I studied economics a level in 1986. The ageing population was studied. Not one government has done a single thing about it.
          The closest was the so called dementia tax, which had the right idea but was poorly thought out, poorly planned and poorly exec...... no they didn’t do it did they so we’re still fooked.

          Edit: actually open door immigration is the answer to an ageing population but look where that has got us.
          Last edited by Lance; 22 November 2017, 08:27.
          See You Next Tuesday

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            #95
            Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
            More and more public sector IT contracts are being advertised out of IR35 - in other words they cannot get the skills.
            Advertised outside IR35, and actually outside IR35 are not the same thing, regrettably.


            Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
            He said asset tax is paid on how much you paid for the house.

            That's a bit stupid if you think of house price inflation in the UK. It means someone who brought their house in the 60s or inherited from their parents will pay £4 there as their neighbour who brought it a year ago will pay £4,000.
            I agree, which is why I questioned it.
            His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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              #96
              Originally posted by Lance View Post
              I studied economics a level in 1986. The ageing population was studied. Not one government has done a single thing about it.
              The closest was the so called dementia tax, which had the right idea but was poorly thought out, poorly planned and poorly exec...... no they didn’t do it did they so we’re still fooked.

              Edit: actually open door immigration is the answer to an ageing population but look where that has got us.
              A few cold winters is the answer to an ageing population, don't worry about that.
              The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                #97
                Originally posted by Lance View Post
                Edit: actually open door immigration is the answer to an ageing population but look where that has got us.
                They solved that problem by having an empire where they could tax the foreigners while they lived in their home lands, no need to bring them all to blighty.

                When we already have globalisation and multinational companies, a world level government and tax is the simple answer. UN just needs to start thinking like the EU. Sorted.
                Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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                  #98
                  Taken from Property Eye:

                  Former prime minister Tony Blair has come up with a series of ideas to tackle the ‘housing crisis’, including rent caps and a new annual property tax.

                  The ‘land value tax’ would see the value of the land that property stands on taxed, rather than the property itself, and would replace council tax and business rates.

                  The idea is not new, and was a pledge in Labour’s last election manifesto.

                  Critics dubbed it a garden tax, but supporters say that a land value tax would stop developers land banking.

                  The report, from the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, also backs the idea of a new sovereign property fund to help councils build. Councils would be given enhanced powers of compulsory purchase to buy under-used properties.

                  It is also calling for minimum rent periods of three years with caps on rent rises and stronger protection against eviction.

                  Blair described the new land value tax as a “fairer and more rational system of property taxation” and said that ideas in the report were radical but practical.

                  In a video Blair criticises the current government for not going far enough in the Budget on its housing proposals, and says it is concentrating on Brexit rather than housing.

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                    #99
                    Originally posted by Martin@AS Financial View Post
                    Taken from Property Eye:

                    Former prime minister Tony Blair has come up with a series of ideas to tackle the ‘housing crisis’, including rent caps and a new annual property tax.

                    The ‘land value tax’ would see the value of the land that property stands on taxed, rather than the property itself, and would replace council tax and business rates.

                    The idea is not new, and was a pledge in Labour’s last election manifesto.

                    Critics dubbed it a garden tax, but supporters say that a land value tax would stop developers land banking.

                    The report, from the Tony Blair Institute for Global Change, also backs the idea of a new sovereign property fund to help councils build. Councils would be given enhanced powers of compulsory purchase to buy under-used properties.

                    It is also calling for minimum rent periods of three years with caps on rent rises and stronger protection against eviction.

                    Blair described the new land value tax as a “fairer and more rational system of property taxation” and said that ideas in the report were radical but practical.

                    In a video Blair criticises the current government for not going far enough in the Budget on its housing proposals, and says it is concentrating on Brexit rather than housing.
                    Will he cite WMDs and invade?

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                      Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                      A few cold winters is the answer to an ageing population, don't worry about that.
                      Not a good idea. Its not a great way to go. It needs something quicker and not painful.

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