Is Indian Offshoring moving...

[woohoo]

Oh, don't be so G-A-Y

You mean merry or lively?

[BR14]

You mean merry or lively?

or
: cheerful, cheery, merry, jolly, light-hearted, mirthful, jovial, glad, happy, bright, in good spirits, in high spirits, joyful, elated, exuberant, animated, lively, sprightly, vivacious, buoyant, bouncy, bubbly, perky, effervescent, playful, frolicsome; ??

[SueEllen]

I think in all of this it is important to recognise that the behaviour of the indians in the off shoring firms only exist because of the companies they work for.

The first thing to recognise is that the sole interest of these firms is to make money out of you - they do not care about your project, your company or your goals - they will make as much money out of you and will happily crap on your project if it means they can get an extra few days consultancy out of it.

These guys you are talking to are given a cut of every single extra days consultancy they can screw out of you by insisting it is a change request to a spec you agreed over a crackly line to indian at 6 am 6 months ago.

The company I am with spanked 5 million with IBM - while 5 million seems a lot of money to companies such as IBM it is peanuts - probably less than that and they will happily hoover up that 5 million in green fees etc before you even write a line of code.

My brother works for a large global corp who are replacing their global billing platform - that project is running into the 100's of millions and they get good service - go figure.


The reason you are starting to see it from some of our eastern european friends is not because they have changed but because they now work for companies with cultures as described above.

So moral of the story - unless you are going to spend 100's of millions of quids do not use IBM or any other large company who does 'IT consultancy and offshoring'

It wasn't Eastern European friends in my cases.

They are and always have been lovely to work with.

[SueEllen]

Oh and instead of B**s they should be called COWs. Cheap Overseas Workers. They also do tend to arrive in herds.

[OwlHoot]

Oh, don't be so G-A-Y

You can say agfay instead. It's probably off Cojak's radar for now.

[fullyautomatix]

Seriously - really?

Banning overtly racist terms is one thing, if nothing else to prevent legal ramifications on the forum owners, but the B** word?

Can't believe how PC this forum has become


Are you going to ban "snowflake" next?

Well, it's Admin's forum and his rules apply. He will give you a refund if you wish.

[Pip in a Poke]

Well, it's Admin's forum and his rules apply. He will give you a refund if you wish.

But of course, "Suck on my whopper you pontificating gobsh!te" is perfectly acceptable

[woohoo]

Oh and instead of B**s they should be called COWs. Cheap Overseas Workers. They also do tend to arrive in herds.

Why are you saying B**s instead of Bobs. Everyone knows what we are talking about. Are we now saying to get around being banned we should use B*b instead of Bob?

Seriously, when you start to ban words or swap them for words that take their meaning it's a slippery slop.

Don't like Cow, if I call someone a stupid cow I don't want to be accused of being racist.

[Pip in a Poke]

You mean merry or lively?

You can say agfay instead. It's probably off Cojak's radar for now.

I think when young lads these days use the term amongst themselves, it means lame.

My nephew, for instance, was complaining the other day that he didn't like being made to watch strictly with his parents because it's gay.

[Dark Black]

is that Bork from trapdoor?
feck me, that was a while ago

Berk