Tate Modern

[Bagpuss]

modern trolls are rubbish

[Lucy]

[Board Game Geek]

I suspect there is a certain amount of pretentiousness in some Modern Art, and some of the people who praise it.

"Oh look, Henrietta, an unborn foetus carried inside a Tesco's shopping bag !"
"Oh yah, Justin. It's just sooooo symptomatic of the consumer society that embraces us even within the womb."

"Absolutely darling. Now, the next piece is a 6-foot long bodily excretion from an African Elephant, with national flags inserted every 3 inches in to the deposit".
"Oh yah. It's like the elephant is expressing his disgust at being driven to extinction by the nations emboldened on the flags."

"Hmm, I'm not so sure. I think the artist is trying to convey the utter and undeniable sense that we are completely pretentious tw@ts who will engineer our own meaning in order to support our self-congratulatory intelligence, and at the same time allow us to demean other lesser mortals who dont "get the picture". "Get the picture, darling, get it ? Ahhhahahahahaha"
"Oh Justin, you are so frightfully witty..."

[Lucy]

It could be that or as someone said before, a way of making us think.

Look around you at how many things, in form and design, that wouldn't be the same with the 'modern' art movement. To continually refer to extremes of it is like saying the P76 was all there was to motoring.

[bogeyman]

I suspect there is a certain amount of pretentiousness in some Modern Art, and some of the people who praise it.

"Oh look, Henrietta, an unborn foetus carried inside a Tesco's shopping bag !"
"Oh yah, Justin. It's just sooooo symptomatic of the consumer society that embraces us even within the womb."

"Absolutely darling. Now, the next piece is a 6-foot long bodily excretion from an African Elephant, with national flags inserted every 3 inches in to the deposit".
"Oh yah. It's like the elephant is expressing his disgust at being driven to extinction by the nations emboldened on the flags."

"Hmm, I'm not so sure. I think the artist is trying to convey the utter and undeniable sense that we are completely pretentious tw@ts who will engineer our own meaning in order to support our self-congratulatory intelligence, and at the same time allow us to demean other lesser mortals who dont "get the picture". "Get the picture, darling, get it ? Ahhhahahahahaha"
"Oh Justin, you are so frightfully witty..."

But that's an easy pop nevertheless.

Yes, there is a ton of pretentious tulipe in the art world - and always has been. It didn't suddenly arrive with 'modern art' you know.

For instance, I hate Damien Hirst for the idle, pretentious little cooksocker he is, but I like Tracy Emin because she can actually draw well, and has some cracking ideas.

Eye of the beholder and all that, but if I have the choice of hanging a Holbein or a Rothko on my wall (financial considerations aside), I think it would be the latter.

[Lucy]

Any of Mondriaan or

Paolozzi's Tottenham court road designs

[Bagpuss]

There is a place for modern art, Photorealism is very boring, especially since the camera was invented, it became rather redundant

[Lucy]

Well, exactly, and why mark-making became so important.

[bogeyman]

There is a place for modern art, Photorealism is very boring, especially since the camera was invented, it became rather redundant

Agreed. But art isn't all about painting and realism, is it.

I'm getting to like installations more and more, and sculpture.

If you get to Oxford, go and look in the Science Oxford building (just off St. Clements). Entry is free.

Was there a couple of weeks ago and they had stuff ranging from the downright spooky to the hillarious and edible (a model of the Radcliffe Camera made as a wedding cake).

There's more to art than stuffy old oil paintings.

[Troll]

It could be that or as someone said before, a way of making us think.

Look around you at how many things, in form and design, that wouldn't be the same with the 'modern' art movement. To continually refer to extremes of it is like saying the P76 was all there was to motoring.

Arty farty claptrap