EU states could refuse to approve a trade deal with the UK

[woohoo]

Roquefort ?

Red Leicester a much better British alternative.

[BrilloPad]

Good.

[shaunbhoy]

Because, cretin, they don't want anybody else to leave EU.

So going medieval on the first brexiter makes strategic sense

It might make "strategic sense" to the petty bureaucrats in the EU upper echelons, but if it doesn't make "business sense" to the majority of EU industrial muscle, it ain't gonna happen.

HTH BIDI

[sasguru]

There isn't one. The EU is saying anything we export to them must meet their standards. It already does, in many cases it's far better. The problem comes if we tell the EU that the stuff they are trying to export to us has to meet our standards. Then the EU is in trouble. Because most of it doesn't.

Interested to know which British products are "far better" than EU counterparts.
And which EU products don't meet our superior standards?

Or is this another example of Brexit fairy-tale land?

[original PM]

And the UK will be in trouble, because it won't be able to source the goods it needs. While the EU would be troubled, I suspect the impact may be less on the EU than on the UK.

Erm so if they are tulip now - and do meet EU standards and therefore we do now import them why would leaving the EU make those goods any more or less 'tulip'

I suppose what it does do is allow us to go and source our own from elsewhere - and we can judge how tulip they are without having some tw@ in Brussels tell us that they may be tulip but we have to buy them because we are in the EU.

[shaunbhoy]

Interested to know which British products are "far better" than EU counterparts.
And which EU products don't meet our superior standards?

Or is this another example of Brexit fairy-tale land?

We'll leave the perspective from fairy-tale land to you. You are the forum's chief "fairy".

[BrilloPad]

It might make "strategic sense" to the petty bureaucrats in the EU upper echelons, but if it doesn't make "business sense" to the majority of EU industrial muscle, it ain't gonna happen.

HTH BIDI

I disagree. The EU does not care about their own industry. Just on punishing the UK.

Interested to know which British products are "far better" than EU counterparts.
And which EU products don't meet our superior standards?

Or is this another example of Brexit fairy-tale land?

The EU has far better cretins than the UK. Oh wait, the UK has you. We are safe on the cretin front.

[sasguru]

It might make "strategic sense" to the petty bureaucrats in the EU upper echelons, but if it doesn't make "business sense" to the majority of EU industrial muscle, it ain't gonna happen.

HTH BIDI

You're wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...uk-over-brexit
Angela Merkel ‘will put the EU interests AHEAD of German carmakers’ in Brexit negotiations | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

You're making the cultural mistake of thinking German firms are like British firms, only looking at the short-term bottom line.
But they don't, they're (1) always looking long-term and (2) much more aligned with their government in strategic terms.
So in terms of (1) they're probably thinking a declining, small market of 60 million that relies on credit to buy their products isn't a great long term bet. and (2) they'll toe the official government line

[original PM]

You're wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...uk-over-brexit
Angela Merkel ‘will put the EU interests AHEAD of German carmakers’ in Brexit negotiations | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

You're making the cultural mistake of thinking German firms are like British firms, only looking at the short-term bottom line.
But they don't, they're (1) always looking long-term and (2) much more aligned with their government in strategic terms.
So in terms of (1) they're probably thinking a declining, small market of 60 million that relies on credit to buy their products isn't a great long term bet. and (2) they'll toe the official government line

So what are they gonna replace that market with?

[shaunbhoy]

You're wrong.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...uk-over-brexit
Angela Merkel ‘will put the EU interests AHEAD of German carmakers’ in Brexit negotiations | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

You're making the cultural mistake of thinking German firms are like British firms, only looking at the short-term bottom line.
But they don't, they're (1) always looking long-term and (2) much more aligned with their government in strategic terms.
So in terms of (1) they're probably thinking a declining, small market of 60 million that relies on credit to buy their products isn't a great long term bet. and (2) they'll toe the official government line

So it is brilliant "long term thinking" to follow the explicit commands of the Junckers of this world?

Yeah.......that'll work. Maybe they could get Sepp Blatter in as a Senior Adviser too?