Bye bye NHS

[tiggat]

The second bit is offtopic but I would much prefer the NHS to be ran as a private business with the NHS as a single payer determining rate cards - that way there will be competition with market forces but nothing much really changing. That would be far closer to the Canadian system....

Is competition a good thing in healthcare? It was outsourcing cleaning that gave rise to MRSA in British hospitals ...

[eek]

Is competition a good thing in healthcare? It was outsourcing cleaning that gave rise to MRSA in British hospitals ...

Competition doesn't mean go for the cheapest bid.....

[woohoo]

Competition doesn't mean go for the cheapest bid.....

But it often does and for many businesses in the private sector this is how it works.

New CEO comes in, reduces costs by outsourcing, they get their bonus, leave and company is still in a crap situation only now the outsourcing company is increasing costs and their service is crap.

[PurpleGorilla]

Is competition a good thing in healthcare? It was outsourcing cleaning that gave rise to MRSA in British hospitals ...

Remember when hospitals used to smell of bleach. Lovely smell. Now they smell of body fluids.

[PurpleGorilla]

Bye bye NHS

But it often does and for many businesses in the private sector this is how it works.

New CEO comes in, reduces costs by outsourcing, they get their bonus, leave and company is still in a crap situation only now the outsourcing company is increasing costs and their service is crap.

And then the CEO and outsourcing company boss meet up for game of golf before a few drinks down at The lodge.

[original PM]

But it often does and for many businesses in the private sector this is how it works.

New CEO comes in, reduces costs by outsourcing, they get their bonus, leave and company is still in a crap situation only now the outsourcing company is increasing costs and their service is crap.

And then the CEO and outsourcing company boss meet up for game of golf before a few drinks down at The lodge.

Indeed - in fact the 'old boys network' is probably one of the biggest threats to the UK - forget Brexit or Labour/Tory - but the inability for business leaders to stop this pointless merry go round of useless tw@s

Main problem is those at the top are on the same merry go round!

[sasguru]

It's clear both the excessively privatised US system and its diametric opposite, the Soviet_style, centrally funded UK NHS are not fit for purpose.
The former because it costs the US excessively while excluding the poorest, the latter because its outcomes are poor.

https://www.theguardian.com/society/...ountries-study

A European-style insurance-based system is the best option.
But the number of stupid people in this country is now so excessive that anyone who starts talking about NHS change is crucified.
Even middle class people think dumping money in the NHS is the solution

[BrilloPad]

For anyone in a critical condition, the NHS works incredibly well. A few outliers - like what happened to Mother-Out-Law.

For those not critical, it is not so good.

[tiggat]

the latter because its outcomes are poor.

are they?

[oscarose]

I've spent 10 good years contracting with the NHS

Working on the Windows XP upgrade?