Time to cut benefits?

[BrilloPad]

Actually, people with their assets tied up in their principle private residence have much better protection for their assets that other people.

Having said that, we really do move to a proper form of social insurance.

Universal benefits...

[BlasterBates]

Ok for the last time no one has said that someone from the EU will not be able to come and pwork in the UK.

What they will not be able to do is come over here, work for a few months and then stay in the UK indefinetly.

subtle but important difference.

They simply don't want to come any more.

96% drop in EU applicants for nursing jobs

Net migration from Eastern Europe to Britain slows to a trickle after Brexit vote

Whatever rule the UK comes out with, you will probably not find EU workers coming to the UK, why should they.

[BrilloPad]

you will probably not find EU workers coming to the UK, why should they ?

Good.

[northernladyuk]

Universal benefits...

It's all very well in theory... but there needs to be decent universal insurance that people contribute to via NIC when in work which ensures a reasonable breathing space when someone loses their job, becomes sick, or dies with dependents. There does need to be a safety net as well, but currently we throw everyone into the same financial situation.

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[BrilloPad]

It's all very well in theory... but tehre needs to be decent universal insurance that people contribute to via NIC when in work which ensures a reasonable breathing space when someone loses their job, becomes sick, or dies with dependents. There does need to be a safety net as well, but currently we throw everyone into the same financial situation.

Do you actually believe that NIC is anything other than a form of income tax?

[bobspud]

Actually, people with their assets tied up in their principle private residence have much better protection for their assets that other people.

Having said that, we really do move to a proper form of social insurance.

Dont kid yourself. When I thought I might need it I had a talk to them. They explained they would expect you to sell your house and downsize so that you could use the capital first...

[BlasterBates]

Good.

The problem you have is that the population is expanding at half a million a year. 50% of that increase is due to people living longer, the other 50% (since Brexit) is non-EU migration.

80% of non-EU migrants don't come to the UK to work, they "loaf around" i.e. they study or they are family members.

Before Brexit 80% of EU migrants came to the UK to work. They now don't come. So the UK's population is growing just as fast as before but now the working population is shrinking.

It will be interesting to see how that problem will be solved.

[SueEllen]

The problem you have is that the population is expanding at half a million a year. 50% of that increase is due to people living longer, the other 50% (since Brexit) is non-EU migration.

80% of non-EU migrants don't come to the UK to work, they "loaf around" i.e. they study or they are family members.

Before Brexit 80% of EU migrants came to the UK to work. They now don't come. So the UK's population is growing just as fast as before but now the working population is shrinking.

It will be interesting to see how that problem will be solved.

Kill of old people as their pensions make up too much of the benefits bill.

[BlasterBates]

Kill of old people as their pensions make up too much of the benefits bill.

indeed or put them in the fruit farms

[BrilloPad]

The problem you have is that the population is expanding at half a million a year. 50% of that increase is due to people living longer, the other 50% (since Brexit) is non-EU migration.

80% of non-EU migrants don't come to the UK to work, they "loaf around" i.e. they study or they are family members.

Before Brexit 80% of EU migrants came to the UK to work. They now don't come. So the UK's population is growing just as fast as before but now the working population is shrinking.

It will be interesting to see how that problem will be solved.

Japan is ahead of us. I reckon robots.