Enough is Enough

[vetran]

Very nice, but what about tackling the source of the poison?

yes he should of dealt with the money. But it was a good point.

[PurpleGorilla]

It's not us that should reform. They should. And they don't do this.

What reform would you like to see?

[diseasex]

What reform would you like to see?

already said it before but my views aren't politically correct and dismissed immediately. If they won't reform themself we will have problems over coming decades, thats the sad fact.
We had our Martin Luther , they should have theirs.

I don't trust any of them if they need to consult on god or imam on every part of their lives.

[PurpleGorilla]

yes he should of dealt with the money. But it was a good point.

Yes, that's true.

[Pip in a Poke]

What reform would you like to see?

I think we need to draw a line in the sand and give them the freedom to follow their religion within certain parameters - i.e. within the boundaries defined by the mores of a liberal, western society.

And apply the same rules to all religions.

e.g. No Sharia courts, no religious slaughter and come down hard on the stuff that's already supposedly outlawed e.g. female genital mutilation.

[PurpleGorilla]

I think we need to draw a line in the sand and give them the freedom to follow their religion within certain parameters - i.e. within the boundaries defined by the mores of a liberal, western society.

And apply the same rules to all religions.

e.g. No Sharia courts, no religious slaughter and come down hard on the stuff that's already supposedly outlawed e.g. female genital mutilation.

100%

I would also like to see the segregation of women and men in mosques made illegal.

What about faith schools? Ban the lot?

[PurpleGorilla]

already said it before but my views aren't politically correct and dismissed immediately. If they won't reform themself we will have problems over coming decades, thats the sad fact.
We had our Martin Luther , they should have theirs.

I don't trust any of them if they need to consult on god or imam on every part of their lives.

how is that any different to a Roman Catholic seeing their priest?

[vetran]

I think we need to draw a line in the sand and give them the freedom to follow their religion within certain parameters - i.e. within the boundaries defined by the mores of a liberal, western society.

And apply the same rules to all religions.

e.g. No Sharia courts, no religious slaughter and come down hard on the stuff that's already supposedly outlawed e.g. female genital mutilation.

Sharia courts - maybe allow specialist lawyers to advise in areas where Justice can be served in an alternate way in our courts, we have jewish courts acting in an advisory capacity.

I am not sure whether Halal slaughter is pain free as stunning. If it can be proved it is, then I have no objection to it.

Agree completely that any criminal activities should be prosecuted without favour.

[oscarose]

bright colour. Intrinsically I don't have an issue with it. The full face veil is another matter, and should be banned.

I think at the end of the day it is about respecting everybody else around you and having a bit of modesty and discretion.

Hijab looks quite friendly and kind - is this from a dating website??

[diseasex]

how is that any different to a Roman Catholic seeing their priest?

if you knew anything about islam is it controls every part of their lives. From how to pee, poo, walk through the door etc to obviously 5 prayers a day. That just doesn't seem healthy to me, borderline of psychosis... Unhealthy to the point they decide to blow themself and other people up.
On any criticism they react with immediate agression , and in countries in middle east with killing of christians revolts etc.