UK threatens Spain with war over gibraltar

[BrilloPad]

That would not be a bad thing as long as the essential facilities are there. Unfortunately, Britain is going to look like Bow, with dozens of high-rise blocks of flats and not a single cafe or restaurant, a couple of Tesco Express shops, one dry cleaner, one gym and a couple of tiny food shops for miles... if you live there you need to take 4-5 stops on the DLR to get to the nearest place (Canary Wharf or Stratford) where you can sit for coffee or a bite. It's a gulag with new studios being offered for 350K-450K, for a cage with a fold-out bed.

The UK has shown they will not tolerate that.

[BlasterBates]

Everyone knows there isn't going to be any military conflict with Spain, it's just embarassing having an ex Tory minister sounding like a 3rd world tinpot dictator on prime time TV. The fact that the papers run with it and get some ex naval commander to talk about how they can singe the King of Spain's beard just raises the level of excruciating embarassment.

[BrilloPad]

Everyone knows there isn't going to be any military conflict with Spain, it's just embarassing having an ex Tory minister sounding like a 3rd world tinpot dictator on prime time TV. The fact that the papers run with it and get some ex naval commander to talk about how they can singe the King of Spain's beard just raises the level of excruciating embarassment.

At one time people thought there would never be a war with Argentina over some piece of rock.

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At one time people thought there would never be a war with Argentina over some piece of rock.

Spain and the UK are both members of NATO. Argentina wasn't, still isn't. If Spain starts being stupid, I'm sure the US will make a phone call and tell them to stay away from the military installations.

[BlueSharp]

I'm pretty sure attacking a member state of NATO would have pretty dire consequences, remember it's a defensive pact not an aggressive one.

[OwlHoot]

If the Spanish start cutting up rough over Gibraltar, the UK could always resuscitate the Perejil Island Crisis and stir up trouble over Ceuta and Melilla

[NigelJK]

At one time people thought there would never be a war with Argentina over some piece of rock.

Oddly the gvmt of the day was quietly withdrawing (the only Navel vessel was a research vessel and it was being withdrawn iirc) and was engaging the Argies in 'talks' (Douglas Hurd iirc).

[Mordac]

Everyone knows there isn't going to be any military conflict with Spain, it's just embarassing having an ex Tory minister sounding like a 3rd world tinpot dictator on prime time TV. The fact that the papers run with it and get some ex naval commander to talk about how they can singe the King of Spain's beard just raises the level of excruciating embarassment.

If it come to handbags, I have a plan. We'll send a few hundred thousand young volunteers to Spain under civilian cover, to fight the locals, smash up strategically important installations (such as bars and nightclubs), and turn parts of Spain into mini warzones, without the Spanish government suspecting anything. Do we think it's a goer?

[Pip in a Poke]

Hmmm.......inneresting.

Anybody over a certain age will remember that the border between Gibraltar and Spain was closed until, what, the late 70s?

If you were in Spain and wished to get onto the Rock, the easiest way in was to take the ferry from Algeciras to Ceuta and then get the ferry from Tangiers back over to Gibraltar.

Pretty convoluted huh?

Anyway, the last time I was in Gib I was sold an out of date mivvi. On its packet it said "Not to be sold individually" and it also displayed signs of having been thawed and refrozen.
I was very disappointed as I haven't had a mivvi since I was a girl.

That said, I went to one of the many eateries that feature Chicken Kiev on the menu. Haven't had that since the seventies either....

I can also highly recommend the HMS Breakfast fry-up at the Lord Nelson pub should any of you ever be visiting.

[MrMarkyMark]

Hmmm.......inneresting.

Anybody over a certain age will remember that the border between Gibraltar and Spain was closed until, what, the late 70s?

If you were in Spain and wished to get onto the Rock, the easiest way in was to take the ferry from Algeciras to Ceuta and then get the ferry from Tangiers back over to Gibraltar.

Pretty convoluted huh?

Anyway, the last time I was in Gib I was sold an out of date mivvi. On its packet it said "Not to be sold individually" and it also displayed signs of having been thawed and refrozen.
I was very disappointed as I haven't had a mivvi since I was a girl.

That said, I went to one of the many eateries that feature Chicken Kiev on the menu. Haven't had that since the seventies either....

I can also highly recommend the HMS Breakfast fry-up at the Lord Nelson pub should any of you ever be visiting.

Very much a boy now though