Scottish Referendum Part 2 - Electric Boogaloo

[TestMangler]

Absolutely this.

If I were a Scot, I'd want to see what the post-Brexit UK looked like before I voted on leaving or not.

But you're not, so fuck off.

[shaunbhoy]

The SNP are playing a clever game and leading May into a Catalonia style trap.

How did that trap work out for Catalonia? Or are they still a part of Spain?

What if the Scottish government goes ahead and organises its own referendum in defiance of Westminster and the constitutional position? How does May respond?

She lets them go ahead with it and then guffaws when the majority choose to vote the way they did less than 3 years ago.

There really is very little appetite for another Indy Ref, Sturgeon knows it and so does everyone else. Let her call one at her peril and put the thing to rest for decades.

[LondonManc]

But you're not, so fuck off.

And I'm glad I'm not. I hope you leave and your country turns into a bigger mess than it's already in. In fact, there's no need to hope, Sturgeon will stitch you all up completely. She only cares about her Braveheart moment. Good luck figuring out where all the money's gone.

[TestMangler]

And I'm glad I'm not. I hope you leave and your country turns into a bigger mess than it's already in. In fact, there's no need to hope, Sturgeon will stitch you all up completely. She only cares about her Braveheart moment. Good luck figuring out where all the money's gone.

You sound like an 8 year old child who's just lost an election for class president.

[TestMangler]

How did that trap work out for Catalonia? Or are they still a part of Spain?



She lets them go ahead with it and then guffaws when the majority choose to vote the way they did less than 3 years ago.

There really is very little appetite for another Indy Ref, Sturgeon knows it and so does everyone else. Let her call one at her peril and put the thing to rest for decades.

Serious question, although I already know it won't get a serious answer. Since the last indyref, there have been 2 elections. One GE and one Scottish parliamentary one. What do you see in the results of those elections that tells you that there is no support for a referendum ?

[shaunbhoy]

What do you see in the results of those elections that tells you that there is no support for a referendum ?

SNP loses overall majority in Scottish Parliament | The Independent

Poll: Support for Indyref2 slips amid Brexit wrangling - The Scotsman

Coupled with the fact that the economic conditions and oil price are a lot less robust looking than they were last time round.

And on top of that, the major thing that swung it "Better Together's" way last time was the uncertainty. That uncertainty has now gone into overdrive.

[VectraMan]

Serious question, although I already know it won't get a serious answer. Since the last indyref, there have been 2 elections. One GE and one Scottish parliamentary one. What do you see in the results of those elections that tells you that there is no support for a referendum ?

I guess we'll find out. I was watching the vote live and the Beeb's analysis suggested the government wanted to push Indyref2 until after the 2021 MSP elections (and so after the 2020 GE too). If there's no support for independence then it'll be clear.

[VectraMan]

And on top of that, the major thing that swung it "Better Together's" way last time was the uncertainty. That uncertainty has now gone into overdrive.

Erm...

The uncertainty of leaving. Now the uncertainty is guaranteed, so there's nothing to lose.

[scooterscot]

Absolutely this.

If I were a Scot, I'd want to see what the post-Brexit UK looked like before I voted on leaving or not.

You just don't get it. I am a Scot. I know what my family will get in a post-Brexit UK, a full on Tory shafting.

People in Scotland already know what they'll get is they remain in the EU. That's why they voted to remain 60% plus.

It's a no brainer.

[Bee]

How did that trap work out for Catalonia? Or are they still a part of Spain?

They still part of Spain because they are important to Spain economy and they are not let them go.