oh dear: Not meaning to means you are not guilty

[Ardesco]

Well unless he was using an old fasioned six shooter he must have cocked it. All semi auto modern pistols need to be cocked to put a bullet in the chamber. Considering it also had a silencer on it it stands to reason that it was most likely a modern semi-automatic pistol.

And I can't wait until i get Jury Service, the scummy chav is going down, GUILTY AS SIN!!!!!

[SallyAnne]

Well unless he was using an old fasioned six shooter he must have cocked it. All semi auto modern pistols need to be cocked to put a bullet in the chamber. Considering it also had a silencer on it it stands to reason that it was most likely a modern semi-automatic pistol.

And I can't wait until i get Jury Service, the scummy chav is going down, GUILTY AS SIN!!!!!

Ardesco - its not fair to take out all that pent up high-BMI anger out on the public.

[Ardesco]

Ah but I won't be taking it out on the public, just some criminal chav who deserves everything he gets!!!

Or worst case scenario I don't get dragged off to do jury duty on account of my right wing views, every ones a winner baby!!!

[John Galt]

I'm not going to bite at everything today....just racism and the law (I have to rashion myself!)

Where the hell is the racist issue??? What is it with this country - if someone black is on trial there automatically becomes a race issue.

Incidentally - ration!

[SallyAnne]

Where the hell is the racist issue??? What is it with this country - if someone black is on trial there automatically becomes a race issue.

Incidentally - ration!

Who gets angry at spelling mistakes - jeez, I hope you dont work with children!

I didn't say there was definately a racist issue, I just said that I wonder if everyone would be so quick to find this lad guilty if the photo posted in the media was that of a white suited man, or some middle class lady.

Racism wasn't really the point here, it was more about finding someone guilty, basd on what the media have told us, before the trial has even fnished!

EDIT: ps - the comment I made about biting today only at issues to do with racism or the law.......the law refered to this thread, and racism refered to the 100% English thread. Wise guy!

[Ardesco]

Right we have some guy who has admitted shooting a police officer and firing a gun 3 times at them and you are asking if we would say guilty if he was a different race/colour/creed???

No matter what his race/colour/creed if he shoots down a copper in cold blood he is a fecking murderer, and i'm 100% sure the media would have portrayed him as one no matter what.

[SallyAnne]

Right we have some guy who has admitted shooting a police officer and firing a gun 3 times at them and you are asking if we would say guilty if he was a different race/colour/creed???

No matter what his race/colour/creed if he shoots down a copper in cold blood he is a fecking murderer, and i'm 100% sure the media would have portrayed him as one no matter what.

IT'S THE COLD BLOOD THING WHICH IS THE ISSUE!!!!

I WAS SAYING YESTERDAY THAT, ON A POINT OF LAW, YOU HAVE TO PROVE INTENT TO BE CONVICTED OF MURDER, OTHEWISE IT IS MANSLAUGHTER!!!!
THE LAD IS SAYING HE DIDN'T KNOW THE GUN WAS LOADED, AND HE DIDN'T MEAN TO SHOOT ANYONE.
ITS UP TO THE JURY TO DECIDE WHETHER HE'S TELLING THE TRUTH OR NOT, NOT US WHO HAVE SO FAR ONLY SEEN A DEAD POLICE WOMAN AND A PICTURE OF A SCARY BLACK MAN!!!

jesus ******* christ! (sorry Chico).

[Ardesco]

I haven't even seen a picture of him tbh, but i'm sure that the Jury will find him guilty as sin and lock him away for a nice long time thereby reinfocing my current opinion.

I'd be pushing to bring back the death penalty or at the least cut his knackers off. If you cut the knackers of every violent criminal there would probably be a lot less murders/violent assaults in this country!!!

[John Galt]

Who gets angry at spelling mistakes - jeez, I hope you dont work with children!

I didn't say there was definately a racist issue, I just said that I wonder if everyone would be so quick to find this lad guilty if the photo posted in the media was that of a white suited man, or some middle class lady.

Racism wasn't really the point here, it was more about finding someone guilty, basd on what the media have told us, before the trial has even fnished!

EDIT: ps - the comment I made about biting today only at issues to do with racism or the law.......the law refered to this thread, and racism refered to the 100% English thread. Wise guy!

Did I say I was angry - I merely pointed it out.

To answer your question - yes everyone would be up in arms if it had been a white suited man or a middle aged lady but the scenario is unlikely at best. There have been any number of demographic studies that prove that the examples you gave are unlikely to commit violent crime. Let's turn it round shall we - would the murder of Damilola Taylor have had such vast media coverage if he had been white? There were in fact 2 racist murders in one day - one victim was black and the other was white - the murder of the white guy had almost no media coverage. This whole issue of racism is always hidden behind the reasoning that the citizens of this country should live in harmony with it each other but it is people like you that always bring race into everything that is fuelling the 'racism'.

[SallyAnne]

Did I say I was angry - I merely pointed it out.

To answer your question - yes everyone would be up in arms if it had been a white suited man or a middle aged lady but the scenario is unlikely at best. There have been any number of demographic studies that prove that the examples you gave are unlikely to commit violent crime. Let's turn it round shall we - would the murder of Damilola Taylor have had such vast media coverage if he had been white? There were in fact 2 racist murders in one day - one victim was black and the other was white - the murder of the white guy had almost no media coverage. This whole issue of racism is always hidden behind the reasoning that the citizens of this country should live in harmony with it each other but it is people like you that always bring race into everything that is fuelling the 'racism'.

How old was the other person that was murdered that day?

EDIT: I doubt very much that he was a school kid who had his head axed, you utter cock.