The ever loving EU again

[SueEllen]

you are getting it

Nah it sounds like all the divorces I know.

[vetran]

Nah it sounds like all the divorces I know.

sad isn't it?

Could be mutual and pleasant if everyone wanted.

[scooterscot]

We are saying we will if they do. That seems sensible and reasonable. To do anything else would put our position and that of UK nationals at a disadvantage. As usual the Remnant case is that we should give in to the all powerful EU. People, trade etc.

Setting a good example is one thing. Being self-righteous is another thing. In no sensible negotiation would you give away part of your bargaining position.

People are not bargaining chips.

The reason that posters such as yourself get labelled at Brit haters is because you are bashing our government for defending our position. At no point have you bashed the EU for refusing to discuss the matter. If they want to wait until the A50 trigger then that's fine. But as usual, both sides get hit.

The hitting is coming all from one side whilst the delay to trigger A50 continues. Cameron could have triggered it on June 24th instead of leaving behind a big yellow streak. You're glorious leader failed to deliver at the midnight hour. There is no excuse.

As for countries having the choice, we have constantly seen warnings from the EU that we shouldn't try to split the member states, they should negotiate together, and
that there must be a common position. Strangely, when it suits them, the Commission seems to forget that and tells everyone to do their own thing. Complete hypocrisy.

Thank Heaven we are getting out.

If there was any further evidence 'they' 'them' do not know how the EU works...

[BlasterBates]

The EU being the richer party with all the established connections in the relationship has just decided to drag it's feet. It however doesn't mean when they do hire lawyers they won't be a vicious opponent.

Absolutely and the UK is going to feel a huge EU boot up its backside.

[Chuck]

People are not bargaining chips.

Yes they are. It's not nice, but that's not relevant.

[LondonManc]

sad isn't it?

Could be mutual and pleasant if everyone wanted.

Doesn't sound very mutual when you simply declare "you are getting it". Sounds a bit rapey to be fair.

[LondonManc]

The insult. The last hiding place for a lost argument.

Not at all, you just needed shutting up before you started believing your own drivel. Car A and Car B are in an accident. Car A won't share details blah blah blah. Deary me. Even a seven year-old would know to call the police. Haven't you got a window to lick somewhere?

[chopper]

Cameron could have triggered it on June 24th

I don't think he could. We've already established that it wouldn't have been constitutionally valid to have done so. There would have been an emergency injuction against him doing so whilst court cases raged on, probably even to the point of the original Article 50 notice having to be revoked, possibly via the ECJ (which would have stoked the more hardened Leavers even more).

This way, there is no question that having fluffed the original legislation so that it wasn't binding, that any Article 50 notice so invoked will be constitutionally valid.

Besides, Cameruin was too busy staring at the tatters of his presumed future EU career.

[vetran]

Doesn't sound very mutual when you simply declare "you are getting it". Sounds a bit rapey to be fair.

only if you think that way.

[vetran]

I don't think he could. We've already established that it wouldn't have been constitutionally valid to have done so. There would have been an emergency injuction against him doing so whilst court cases raged on, probably even to the point of the original Article 50 notice having to be revoked, possibly via the ECJ (which would have stoked the more hardened Leavers even more).

This way, there is no question that having fluffed the original legislation so that it wasn't binding, that any Article 50 notice so invoked will be constitutionally valid.

Besides, Cameruin was too busy staring at the tatters of his presumed future EU career.

spot on, pity the bremainers can't see through their grief at losing.