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“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.” -
I am pro Scottish independence, I was before Scotref and I am after Brexit.
If a nation wants independence, then let the people have what they want.
I would like to think that if Scotland left the rest of the UK would give Scotland a fair deal and treat it like a friend.Comment
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostI am pro Scottish independence, I was before Scotref and I am after Brexit.
If a nation wants independence, then let the people have what they want.
I would like to think that if Scotland left the rest of the UK would give Scotland a fair deal and treat it like a friend.
Raeburn Brick Limited Scotland's Leading Brick Manufacturing and Supply Company“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
If a nation wants independence, then let the people have what they want.
The problem of course is, when given the choice, it was a fairly comprehensive mandate for remaining in the Union.“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostI would like to think that if Scotland left the rest of the UK would give Scotland a fair deal and treat it like a friend.
As Scotland would be in the EU, EU rules would mandate a hard border between Scotland and England. (Probably like the one they'll have to build between Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland). And even if rUK wanted to treat Scotland like a friend (and I don't see why we wouldn't), Scotland's ability to do business with rUK will be out of its hands, that will be firmly in the hands of the EU.
Explain how that is independence for Scotland? It is separation from the UK, but it is not independence.Taking a break from contractingComment
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Originally posted by chopper View PostSee, here's the contradiction. You want an independent Scotland. Check. You want Scotland to be a full EU member. Check. In which case Scotland would have to be in the Eurozone as a prerequisite of membership and signed up to 'ever closer union'. You will have 6 MEPs representing you in the European parliament out of 700+.
As Scotland would be in the EU, EU rules would mandate a hard border between Scotland and England. (Probably like the one they'll have to build between Northern Ireland and Republic of Ireland). And even if rUK wanted to treat Scotland like a friend (and I don't see why we wouldn't), Scotland's ability to do business with rUK will be out of its hands, that will be firmly in the hands of the EU.
Explain how that is independence for Scotland? It is separation from the UK, but it is not independence.When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....Comment
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Originally posted by TestMangler View PostBut as the Brexiters keep telling us, the UK will have full unfettered access to the single market because they need us more than we need them, so what's the problem ?
HTH
“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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Originally posted by TestMangler View PostBut as the Brexiters keep telling us, the UK will have full unfettered access to the single market because they need us more than we need them, so what's the problem ?
However, the European Economic Community we signed up for in the 1970s became a political union, and politicians don't act rationally when the gravy train is under threat. Noses will be bitten to spite faces everywhere. After all, it wont be the politicians of the European Union who will suffer.
It is moot. On the day that Scotland becomes independent from the UK, it will not be an EU member. It will have no trade deal with anywhere in the world other than rUK.Taking a break from contractingComment
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Originally posted by chopper View PostOn the day that Scotland becomes independent from the UK, it will not be an EU member. It will have no trade deal with anywhere in the world other than rUK.
I am sure SHE will be fine.
“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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Originally posted by chopper View PostIt makes perfect economic sense on both sides for the UK to continue to have unfettered access to trade with the EU - our goods and services already comply with EU regulation, after all.
However, the European Economic Community we signed up for in the 1970s became a political union, and politicians don't act rationally when the gravy train is under threat. Noses will be bitten to spite faces everywhere. After all, it wont be the politicians of the European Union who will suffer.
It is moot. On the day that Scotland becomes independent from the UK, it will not be an EU member. It will have no trade deal with anywhere in the world other than rUK.
truth is that no one knows what would have happened or what will happen and any strong opinion is supposition, usually sprinkled with a liberal dose of utter shite.When freedom comes along, don't PISH in the water supply.....Comment
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