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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostAmerican politics is broken. Turnout less than 60%, a president elected to power on fewer votes than his interloper.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by MyUserName View PostI am not a Trump supporter but I thought that in that video about grabbing women by the pussy he was boasting about what they let him do therefore they would not be victims as they were consenting?
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Trump *I better use some Tic Tacs just in case I start kissing her. You know I'm automatically attracted to beautiful — I just start kissing them. It's like a magnet. Just kiss. I don't even wait. And when you're a star they let you do it. You can do anything.
Bush:*Whatever you want.
Trump:*Grab them by the pussy. You can do anything.
In a federal lawsuit – filed while she and her husband were suing Trump for allegedly not paying them what he owed on the American Dream contract – Harth alleged that Trump forcibly touched her, time and again, at various meetings and parties over about a year’s time.
At one dinner party at Trump’s Plaza Hotel, she said in the lawsuit that Trump touched her thigh under the table, attempting to grab her “intimate private parts.” She alleged Trump also forced her into a bedroom at his*Mar-A-Lago*estate in Palm Beach, touched her “private parts in an act that constituted attempted rape.”
“Well, I’ll tell you the funniest is that before a show, I’ll go backstage and everyone’s getting dressed, and everything else, and you know, no men are anywhere, and I’m allowed to go in because I’m the owner of the pageant and therefore I’m inspecting it,” Trump said. “You know, I’m inspecting because I want to make sure that everything is good.”
Everything About the Donald Trump Sexual Assault Allegations
Trump, companies accused of mistreating women in at least 20 lawsuitsMy subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostCompared to our system, it seems fair.My subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostYep. Both are broken.
As I have said before Trump and Brexit are reactions to the tyranny of the liberal left. I am sure many who voted for him share some of your opinions (as I do) of him but they would rather give him a go than continue to put up with your "truths"Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhich means what exactly?
As I have said before Trump and Brexit are reactions to the tyranny of the liberal left. I am sure many who voted for him share some of your opinions (as I do) of him but they would rather give him a go than continue to put up with your "truths"
I don't disagree with some of that analysis. The exit polls indicate that just 42% of Trump supporters 'strongly favoured' him (53% for Clinton) while 51% said 'I dislike the other candidates' best described their reason for voting (39% Clinton).
So it seems to have been more anti-Clinton than pro-Trump. I grossly underestimated the strength of anti-status quo feeling and the degree to which voters were willing to overlook the candidate's manifest flaws in order to register a protest 'FU' vote. So it goes.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...xit-polls.htmlMy subconscious is annoying. It's got a mind of its own.Comment
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Originally posted by DodgyAgent View PostWhich means what exactly?
As I have said before Trump and Brexit are reactions to the tyranny of the liberal left. I am sure many who voted for him share some of your opinions (as I do) of him but they would rather give him a go than continue to put up with your "truths"The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostI grossly underestimated the strength of anti-status quo feeling and the degree to which voters were willing to overlook the candidate's manifest flaws in order to register a protest 'FU' vote.
It is unarguably a fairer and much more democratic system, and much more likely to improve voter turnout in future Elections.
Without major change turnout figures will continue to slump to the point where the powers that be will try and make voting mandatory.
And that would be completely wrong.“The period of the disintegration of the European Union has begun. And the first vessel to have departed is Britain”Comment
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Originally posted by shaunbhoy View PostYou and a great many others. I can't understand why, in this country, all of the opposition parties are not now pushing for a Proportional Representation system to replace our outdated FPTP muddle.
It is unarguably a fairer and much more democratic system, and much more likely to improve voter turnout in future Elections.
Without major change turnout figures will continue to slump to the point where the powers that be will try and make voting mandatory.
And that would be completely wrong.
We don't want true PR as by true PR you get right or left wing fascist parties holding the balance of power. You wouldn't like a party like the BNP or Momentum deciding policy."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by pjclarke View PostBriefly it means we are a long way from the democratic ideal of 1 man, 1 vote. The value of a vote varies by postcode, people in swing states or marginal seats have a disproportionate say in the outcome. The reasons for this were sound at the time the systems were created, but drastically need modernisation. Under pure OMOV, Clinton would now be president (+ 1.15 million), and our political landscape would also look very different.
I don't disagree with some of that analysis. The exit polls indicate that just 42% of Trump supporters 'strongly favoured' him (53% for Clinton) while 51% said 'I dislike the other candidates' best described their reason for voting (39% Clinton).
So it seems to have been more anti-Clinton than pro-Trump. I grossly underestimated the strength of anti-status quo feeling and the degree to which voters were willing to overlook the candidate's manifest flaws in order to register a protest 'FU' vote. So it goes.
http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...xit-polls.html
Your attempts to kid people about your various extortion rackets have been rumbled
Last edited by DodgyAgent; 16 November 2016, 15:03.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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