IndyRef2 : This time it's war!

[BrilloPad]

You my friend, are having a Giraffe!

Since when did you become a Cockney?

[Batcher]

Not in your lifetime buddy boy!

It’s coming sooner than you think then ????????

[Zigenare]

Happy to take the responsibility that comes with independence ??????????

Not in your lifetime buddy boy!

[Batcher]

The second link is a thesis provided for a masters. It doesn't set out to debunk that the Darien Scheme was a failure or that the English where to blame.

It's just tries to prove that the scheme didn't fail because of Scottish incompetence. In the real world many schemes don't fail because of incompetence but because competing forces win. TBH I don't believe the thesis, it's bias is set out right from that start. I find it hard to believe this is the definitive article on the Darien Scheme.

The Scottish need to stop blaming the English for all their issues and take responsibility.

Happy to take the responsibility that comes with independence ??????????

[woohoo]

You my friend, are having a Giraffe!

Bit extreme, I wouldn't say we are friends.

[Zigenare]

The second link is a thesis provided for a masters. It doesn't set out to debunk that the Darien Scheme was a failure or that the English where to blame.

It's just tries to prove that the scheme didn't fail because of Scottish incompetence. In the real world many schemes don't fail because of incompetence but because competing forces win. TBH I don't believe the thesis, it's bias is set out right from that start. I find it hard to believe this is the definitive article on the Darien Scheme.

The Scottish need to stop blaming the English for all their issues and take responsibility.

You my friend, are having a Giraffe!

[woohoo]

The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia


The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all

The second link is a thesis provided for a masters. It doesn't set out to debunk that the Darien Scheme was a failure or that the English where to blame.

It's just tries to prove that the scheme didn't fail because of Scottish incompetence. In the real world many schemes don't fail because of incompetence but because competing forces win. TBH I don't believe the thesis, it's bias is set out right from that start. I find it hard to believe this is the definitive article on the Darien Scheme.

The Scottish need to stop blaming the English for all their issues and take responsibility.

[eek]

All's well that ends well...

England - subbing Scottish overspending and dodgy decisions since 1705....

[Zigenare]

The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia



The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all

All's well that ends well...

Combined with English financial offers to refund Scottish losses on the Darien scheme, the Act achieved its aim, leading to the Acts of Union 1707 uniting the two countries as the Kingdom of Great Britain.

[Batcher]

TIL

Scotland joined the Union partly because they ****ed up so badly they were basically broke


Darien scheme - Wikipedia

The Darien Scheme broke the investors, not Scotland itself. It was this lot that signed up to the union to save themselves, its where the saying “bought and sold for English gold” comes from. The English parliament brought in the Alien Act 1705 to boycott Scottish trade to force the rich Scots to join the union. At that time only rich men could vote and become politicians so the normal people didn’t have a say.

There were riots in the streets of Scotland for years because the ordinary Scots didn’t want the union.

Read up on the Alien Act here Alien Act 1705 - Wikipedia


The Darien Scheme myth has been debunked here https://corescholar.libraries.wright...ontext=etd_all