Labour MP's are finally accepting the terrifying victory of Corbyn

[DodgyAgent]

Depends on how you came to that decision.

If you viewed it like others including a certain dead MP viewed it e.g. it is because it would lead to a frigging mess then you may have had a point.

However if you viewed it in the Corbyn way - no war at any costs including in Kosovo where there was genocide which he claimed was made up then you don't.

Quite. the point I am making is that the iraq war was not a matter of good vs bad. Whether the Uk got involved or not there were bad outcomes of both sides. Just as it the situation is with Syria. It can be argued that the cruel decision was to not get involved in Syria 5 years ago.
Corbyn's motives for being anti the Iraq war was more to do with his personal hatred of the British, its capitalist society and its own institutions than anything to do with "doing good"

[DodgyAgent]

FTFY

I am sure there is another point there for another discussion but if you are trying to turn an argument about Jeremy Ciorbyn into one that you feel you have more chance of winning then it isn't going to work

[d000hg]

I believe his expenses are pretty standard, there is a myth that he hardly claims as he only put through a printer cartridge one year and put the rest in late the next year.

I thought he was ranked as the lowest (or close) though I haven't fact-checked it. Got a source?

So quite content to watch saddam Hussein butcher his people?

Not screwing the expenses system is the best you can come up with?

a)You asked me for one good thing, after claiming he had not an ounce of good in him. Now you're moving the goalposts?

b)Really, you're pro-Blair now? When the entire world has agreed it was wrong, because Corbyn said it you're going to disagree on principle?

[d000hg]

Corbyn's motives for being anti the Iraq war was more to do with his personal hatred of the British, its capitalist society and its own institutions than anything to do with "doing good"

Unsubstantiated partisan nonsense. It's hard to tell if you're trolling or genuinely that twisted.

You genuinely think he's spent decades quietly working hard for his constituents while hating them, waiting for the chance to lead his party in a socialist revolution?

[d000hg]

Based on your ability to flip-flop I assume trolling.

1)You'll say he's acting out of self-interest and he has no interest in helping others.
2)I'll say I think he genuinely believes in his principles (even if he's wrong) and does care about people
3)You'll say you agree and that that's even worse

We've done this lots of times, whichever side anyone takes you just take the opposite. I think you need to make your position clear. Does he genuinely believe what he says and hold stupid, dangerous views? Or is it just a front and he's only interested in his own power and privilege?

[MrMarkyMark]

I thought he was ranked as the lowest (or close) though I haven't fact-checked it. Got a source?

a)You asked me for one good thing, after claiming he had not an ounce of good in him. Now you're moving the goalposts?

b)Really, you're pro-Blair now? When the entire world has agreed it was wrong, because Corbyn said it you're going to disagree on principle?

All there, doesn't seem the lowest. To be frank, the printer thing seems like a bit of a political stunt.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jeremy...ther_interests

Corbyn's expenses claims have been in the lower half when all MPs are ranked. A year after the 2009 expenses scandal, Corbyn submitted only a claim for an £8.95 printer cartridge in the May-August 2010 period; this was the lowest actual office expenses claim, although 78 MPs made no claims at all.[62] In 2011–12 his total claim was £129,597.98 (201st smallest out of 653 MPs in the year) [63] and in 2014–15 he claimed £159,281.35 in total (259th lowest of all MPs).[64]

[darmstadt]

I am sure there is another point there for another discussion but if you are trying to turn an argument about Jeremy Ciorbyn into one that you feel you have more chance of winning then it isn't going to work

Well Jeremy Corbyn has never been in a position of power unlike Thatcher, Blair, et. al. and it looks he probably won't be but it's far how the right wing are so scared of him that all they can do is talk about him BTW, May has been in power for around 100 days yet, has she actually done anything yet apart from decide that Hinckley is to be built by the French and Chinese and that apparently 'Brexit is Brexit'?

[DodgyAgent]

Unsubstantiated partisan nonsense. It's hard to tell if you're trolling or genuinely that twisted.

You genuinely think he's spent decades quietly working hard for his constituents while hating them, waiting for the chance to lead his party in a socialist revolution?

I could not have put any better myself.

[DodgyAgent]

Well Jeremy Corbyn has never been in a position of power unlike Thatcher, Blair, et. al. and it looks he probably won't be but it's far how the right wing are so scared of him that all they can do is talk about him BTW, May has been in power for around 100 days yet, has she actually done anything yet apart from decide that Hinckley is to be built by the French and Chinese and that apparently 'Brexit is Brexit'?

The right wing are delighted with Corbyn half of those that joined labour to vote for him were Tory loons Why are so many Tories joining Labour after Jeremy Corbyn's leadership announcement? - Telegraph

[DodgyAgent]

The right wing are delighted with Corbyn half of those that joined labour to vote for him were Tory loons Why are so many Tories joining Labour after Jeremy Corbyn's leadership announcement? - Telegraph

But to be fair he seems to be pretty good with his constituents Jeremy Corbyn - Labour leader, but what's he like as an MP? - Channel 4 News

As I suppose he would be as most of them would be poorer than him and would not offer any sort of threat to him. They do not represent the British establishment, the armed services, the wealth creators so they do not fall within his circle of dislike.

Having said that his popularity with his constituents may have something to do with this "given Islington has one of the highest incidents of mental illness in the country".