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Getting involved in overseas politics

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    #11
    Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
    He deserves a break - he's been brilliant.

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      #12
      Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
      Trump and Farage Both much brighter & successful than me, both against uncontrolled immigration, both married to foreigners
      FTFY

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        #13
        Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
        Compared to the Bush Dynasty or Bill the letch maybe he has a point?
        Last edited by vetran; 25 August 2016, 16:03.

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          #14
          Try this for a balanced review

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            #15
            Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
            He is a highly intelligent president compared to his immediate predecessors.
            I would also add that he took over at a time of financial crisis and stabilised the US so that a depression was avoided.
            If I would have a criticism it would be that his concentration on a domestic agenda led him to take his eye off the ball a tad on foreign affairs.
            Sadly, the US, like the UK, has now bred too many cretins. And as such his legacy will not be appreciated.

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              #16
              Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
              He is a highly intelligent president compared to his immediate predecessors.
              Agreed.

              Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
              I would also add that he took over at a time of financial crisis and stabilised the US so that a depression was avoided.
              Undoubtedly

              Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
              If I would have a criticism it would be that his concentration on a domestic agenda led him to take his eye off the ball a tad on foreign affairs.
              Given the mess he inherited domestically, that's a somewhat harsh criticism even if correct. It's a bit of a conundrum for USA, they're accused of either ignoring the global issues when they focus internally or alternatively criticised for meddling when they get involved in international affairs. There seems to be an expectation that they're responsible in some way to resolving the ills of the world. More collective responsibility is required from other developed nations.

              What is a fact though is the US's foreign policy approvals rating amongst the rest of the world has improved dramatically since he took over from Dubya so he hasn't got it all wrong.

              Originally posted by CretinWatcher View Post
              Sadly, the US, like the UK, has now bred too many cretins. And as such his legacy will not be appreciated.
              Very true and probably why he is viewed more favourably outside of the USA than he is appreciated by its citizens.

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                #17
                Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                It's a very good idea, from a British Foreign policy standpoind, to try and cover all the angles.

                If Trump loses then no harm done, to the UK or to Farage (if he is genuinely retiring from politics), and if Trump wins then the UK gains kudos with him by having had at least one high profile politician who publicy supported him.

                For this purpose, Trump's policies and attitudes are completely immaterial, and arguing about his merits or otherwise is missing the point.
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by vetran View Post
                  FTFY
                  Whs x2

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                    #19
                    Trump has not won anything yet, and Farage has not got uk any closer to article 50.
                    WTF are they both smiling about?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by oracleslave View Post
                      He deserves a break - he's been brilliant.
                      Translation: He's been slightly less useless than the alternative.
                      His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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