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Originally posted by The_Equalizer View PostAlthough generally against the idea, I feel there are certain things that should be owned by the public in the national interest. Off the top of my head they would be transport, energy and defence.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostCorrect. Getting HGVs off the roads as much as possible would massively reduce the wear and tear on the highways, reducing the amount of roadworks required and improving driver experience. If that can go hand-in-hand with better hybrid/electric vehicle technology then we're heading for a greener environment too.
The real problem with the railways is nobody wants to pay. You can lower ticket prices by having much larger subsidies like in other countries, but we all still pay in increased taxes and it's a very regressive tax in that rail commuters tend to be the better paid. If you take the idea to its extreme why not make it like the NHS and free at the point of use?Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
It's one of the few things I agree with Jezza on. Nationalised public transport system. If we're going to reduce our carbon footprint, getting polluting HGVs off the road and on to electrified, dedicated freight lines is the way to go. ..
If you'd been around in the '70s, you wouldn't be so idealistic!Work in the public sector? Read the IR35 FAQ hereComment
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Originally posted by VectraMan View PostWhere are you expecting HGVs to go?
The real problem with the railways is nobody wants to pay. You can lower ticket prices by having much larger subsidies like in other countries, but we all still pay in increased taxes and it's a very regressive tax in that rail commuters tend to be the better paid. If you take the idea to its extreme why not make it like the NHS and free at the point of use?The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Originally posted by LondonManc View PostI'm expecting them to be phased out and replaced by local distribution, with the bulk of large distribution done by rail. Obviously not short term, but there are too many HGVs on our roads at the moment, especially those doing 60.1mph, overtaking one going 60mph.
If it were cost effective to send things by rail things would be sent by rail. Once you factor in the extra cost of unloading and loading onto an HGV at either end it can't be economic compared to simply driving the HGV from the factory to where the goods are needed (making extra money smuggling immigrants along the way). I agree it'd be great if you could get lorries off the roads (slow drivers too), but it's not likely to happen.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Switzerland is reducing the number of HGVs on the road, by creating a rail link under the alps. Plenty of freight is shipped(?) by train on the continent, so it must be possible to make it cost-effective. What happened in the UK is that roads were invested in at the expense of the railway network. I blame Dr Beeching.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by barrydidit View PostGiven that, 20? years after privatisation, we're still being packed into shyte like this, any sort of a change would be a win
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostSwitzerland is reducing the number of HGVs on the road, by creating a rail link under the alps. Plenty of freight is shipped(?) by train on the continent, so it must be possible to make it cost-effective. What happened in the UK is that roads were invested in at the expense of the railway network. I blame Dr Beeching.The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't existComment
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Thing is Britain is too small.
Its fine shipping goods 4/5 hundred miles by train but in the UK most distribution centers have a delivery radius of what 70/80 miles and because of that it makes not sense to move the goods by anything but road.Comment
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