Originally posted by meridian
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Originally posted by meridian View PostAustralia and NZ have wanted free trade deals with Europe for decades, they want to be free to send as much lamb, butter, wine and wheat as they can. Europe's (rightly) refused up to now, to protect local farmers and wine producers.
Britain's in a precarious negotiating position - they want and need trade deals, but also need to protect local industry and farming from being undercut.
Australia might want a trade deal "now", but that doesn't mean that one will be forthcoming any time soon.Will work inside IR35. Or for food.Comment
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostFor the Remainers. Vote Owen Smith and get another go, just to be sure.His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...Comment
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostIt proves my point that the big contributors will get their way and rules will be changed accordingly. You lot have told us loads of nonsense and so far been pretty much wrong on everything. Even presented with hard facts you still cant accept them. Vote Smith. You know you want to.
Factor in that the Canada deal has already been 7 years in the making, and is now estimated to be another 5 years in ratification, then the 12 years for the deal to go through is roughly in line with what we have been saying, that new trade deals for the UK would take a decade or more.Comment
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Originally posted by meridian View PostErr, not quite - in the Canada example you are citing, the rules are being changed to make things harder and more drawn out, not easier. If this were to translate the same way into an EU/UK trade deal, then any deal would be reliant on all countries agreeing. A "Canada model" not accepting free movement of people would be a far different proposition for agreement than a UK model not accepting free movement of people, especially to EU countries like Poland.
Factor in that the Canada deal has already been 7 years in the making, and is now estimated to be another 5 years in ratification, then the 12 years for the deal to go through is roughly in line with what we have been saying, that new trade deals for the UK would take a decade or more.
Anyways, sign a free trade deal with Japan and then watch the German car manufacturers negotiate for us.Comment
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Originally posted by GB9 View PostGood morning fellow Brexiters.
Looks like early 2017 according to this.
And it seems only a very small minority want a second referendum.
And the Australian's want a trade deal, now.
This one says member EU nations can ratify the agreement with Canada individually. I thought it was meant to be all or nothing but it seems the rules can change as required.
Tusk puts his foot in his mouth again. Who needs Boris?!“Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.”Comment
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Originally posted by minestrone View PostTrade deals are about regulations mostly, TTIP has been such a struggle due to both the EU and the USA having extremely well detailed and often contradictory standards that cannot be harmonised, GM crops and hormone use in animal produce for instance. As the EU and the UK currently use the same regulations and if the UK goes on using EU standards any deal should be far simpler to negotiate.
Anyways, sign a free trade deal with Japan and then watch the German car manufacturers negotiate for us.Comment
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostYup, non-tariff barriers are more difficult than tariffs, and these should be much simpler when negotiating with EU countries (or, in reality, the EU as a block).
http://www.conservativehome.com/plat...r-britain.html
Regulation already in place will stay for the moment, but the flood of new regulation from Europe will be halted. We can then look at structuring our regulatory environment so that it helps business, rather than hinders.
Switzerland and Norway accept EU regulations so they can export easily.Last edited by BlasterBates; 17 July 2016, 15:39.I'm alright JackComment
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So we have a car manufactured in Germany by a Germany car company.
In a post brexit UK without a EU trade deal what are the cost implications on buying again from that manufacturer?Comment
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