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Cost of inquiry into Edinburgh tram project hits £3.7m

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    Cost of inquiry into Edinburgh tram project hits £3.7m

    I spent 2-minutes reading the story and already know why it went over budget. 6 million documents!!! Someone is taking the monumental pi$$

    Over the years I've worked on projects that went into the tens of millions, between five and ten thousand documents on the server at most.


    Cost of inquiry into Edinburgh tram project hits £3.7m - BBC News

    Cost of inquiry into Edinburgh tram project hits £3.7m

    TramPA
    The trams run on an 8.7-mile route from the New Town to Edinburgh Airport
    The cost of the inquiry into the Edinburgh trams fiasco has exceeded £3.7m, BBC Scotland has learned.

    The probe is investigating what went wrong with the £776m project which went massively over-budget and was completed five years later than planned.

    It was established in June 2014 by Alex Salmond, then first minister, who said it would be "swift and thorough".

    A spokesman for the Edinburgh Tram Inquiry said it was making "good progress".

    However they were unable to say when Lord Hardie, who is leading the inquiry, was due to report its findings.

    The spokesman said: "The Scottish ministers have been clear from the start that the inquiry should be timely and cost effective.

    "Lord Hardie's priority is to conduct a thorough investigation into the Edinburgh tram project and produce a report and recommendations that ensure lessons are learned for future major infrastructure projects."

    Going off the rails: The Edinburgh trams saga
    The details of the costs of the inquiry were published by Transport Scotland in response to a freedom of information request.

    It revealed that £1.822m has been spent on staffing costs, while legal fees have cost £716,000.

    And the costs are likely to increase further as the Scottish government has allocated it a total of £2.5m for 2016-17.

    The development has led to calls for the inquiry to be brought to a swift conclusion.

    Funding provided to the Edinburgh Tram Inquiry
    2014-15 2015-16 2016-17 (year to 7 June 2016) Total
    Staff costs £388,000 £1,217,000 £217,000 £1,822,000
    Accommodation costs £173,000 £329,000 £0 £502,000
    Professional (legal) fees £127,000 £573,000 £16,000 £716,000
    IT costs £184,000 £343,000 £13,000 £540,000
    Miscellaneous costs £27,000 £92,000 £9,000 £128,000
    TOTAL: £899,000 £2,554,000 £255,000 £3,708,000
    Miles Briggs, a Conservative MSP for the Lothians, said: "Edinburgh taxpayers are quite rightly angry that the Edinburgh Trams inquiry has gone on for so long and at such a cost to the taxpayer.

    "It is essential that lessons are learnt from the inquiry and that the findings should be reported back as soon as possible so we can see what went wrong during the original project.

    "Too often public infrastructure contracts are allowed to overrun with Scottish taxpayers being exposed to the increases in costs."

    A total of 25 people are employed by the inquiry, which is currently reviewing more than six million documents.

    TramPA
    They are also taking statements from "witnesses of interest" before oral hearings begin.

    The inquiry will not determine why the project went ahead, nor will it decide if anybody was legally responsible or financially liable.

    It will examine why the project cost so much while delivering less than had initially been planned.

    The Scottish government has agreed to fund the costs of the trams inquiry until it is completed.

    A spokesman for the government said: "We have been clear from the outset that the inquiry should be efficient and cost effective, however, we know that major infrastructure projects do generate large quantities of documentation, and we understand the inquiry team has already gathered over six million documents.


    "Lord Hardie and his team is firmly committed to discerning the facts in a robust and thorough manner in order to ensure the final report is fair, balanced and offers clear recommendations for the planning and construction of future projects."

    Additional funding

    The project was first mooted in 2003 when the Labour-led Scottish Executive proposed building a network of tram lines at a cost of £375m by 2009.

    When the SNP minority government was elected in 2007, they planned to scrap the project.

    But that decision was overturned when the other parties in the Scottish Parliament voted in favour of pressing ahead.

    After that, the government said it would not provide additional funding beyond the £500m committed by MSPs.

    By the time the first trams started running on the 8.7mile (14km) route in May 2014, the total cost of the project had reached £776m.
    "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

    #2
    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
    I spent 2-minutes reading the story and already know why it went over budget. 6 million documents!!! Someone is taking the monumental pi$$

    Over the years I've worked on projects that went into the tens of millions, between five and ten thousand documents on the server at most.


    Cost of inquiry into Edinburgh tram project hits £3.7m - BBC News
    The West Coast Mainline upgrade from about 15 years ago ran to about 1.3m documents, iirc, which isn't as bad as it sounds - every single feature (bridges, stations, even footpaths nearby) had to have the full elf & safety risk assessment treatment. That was over 100 miles and cost somewhere north of £14bn.
    If the muppets in charge of this Edinburgh shambles documented every single paving stone along the 8 mile route, they would struggle to hit 6 million documents. They'd frankly struggle to hit 6 million words. Somebody needs a bloody good
    His heart is in the right place - shame we can't say the same about his brain...

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      #3
      It was a massive project involving moving miles of existing underground wiring and piping in one of the busiest city centers in the UK, coordinating that with multiple service providers, land owners and the public sector. Documents will be everything from drawings to emails so I'm not surprised.

      The Germany contractor was ultimately to blame for much of the delay and cost overrun. They stretch of track on princess street had to be relayed twice before a tram and ever been on it.

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        #4
        In China they could have built that piddling tram line for the cost of the documents alone.

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          #5
          ....and it's tulip!

          It's slower than the bus while being more expensive than the bus. It's kind of ironic that the investigation into why the tram project overran it's budget and timescales is doing the very same thing.
          Rule Number 1 - Assuming that you have a valid contract in place always try to get your poo onto your timesheet, provided that the timesheet is valid for your current contract and covers the period of time that you are billing for.

          I preferred version 1!

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            #6
            Looks like they are going to be well fit to run their financial affairs when they become independent
            The Chunt of Chunts.

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              #7
              The hearing looks like a really tulip Star Trek re-enactment.

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                #8
                What happens when the SNP are in charge.

                Imagine if they had been in charge of Chilcott.....

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
                  What happens when the SNP are in charge..
                  Actually SNP tried to cancel the project. The contract was signed under labour.
                  "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                    #10
                    But runs pretty smoothly now.

                    I use it regularly atm.
                    "I can put any old tat in my sig, put quotes around it and attribute to someone of whom I've heard, to make it sound true."
                    - Voltaire/Benjamin Franklin/Anne Frank...

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