EU accepts inevitable informal negotiations before Article 50

[original PM]

AtW we I don't think you realise it but we do not yet live in a totalitarian state. You seem to think that the EU is the ultimate authority of europe and like the soviet Union the governing force in control of everything. The reality is that everything is negotiable in the world of free markets and that the UK is the single biggest export market for the EU and the fifth largest economy in the world. Your whole reaction is that the UK is some sort of naughty boy beholden to he EU for pretty well everything. Your binary view is that the EU is the ultimate power. It most certainly is not and nor does it have the strength to make choices about whether it acceeds to Britains terms. Britain is a very big and powerful economy on its own and it is as much up to the EU to be answerable to Britain as the other way round.

I have said this before as well.

As soon as someone mentions the word 'punish' the implication is that we as the servant have done something our master did not want us to do so we are punished.

The whole notion that the EU see themselves as the masters of Europe and all the countries as the servants is incredibly scary and one of the main reasons I voted out.

Think about it we are supposed to be punished for leaving the club.

When will it get to a point where we have to do what they say or they will punish us.

[CretinWatcher]

I am not saying anyone else will leave the EU I am saying that there are some people in other countries who do not see much value in being a member of the EU for various reasons.

That group of people was much larger pre-Brexit.
Now that they've seen the shambles the country is in even the most Eurosceptic countries are now majority pro-EU.
And 5 years from now let's see what state we're in shall we?

[tomtomagain]

Now that they've seen the shambles the country is in even the most Eurosceptic countries are now majority pro-EU.

It's hardly a shambles. A small group of politicians have lost their jobs but the signs are they are re-asserting themselves.

A few property funds are having a hard time and the pound has devalued around 10%.

Considering it's the biggest political upheaval for 50 years the impact has been benign.

[darmstadt]

It's hardly a shambles. A small group of politicians have lost their jobs but the signs are they are re-asserting themselves.

A few property funds are having a hard time and the pound has devalued around 10%.

Considering it's the biggest political upheaval for 50 years the impact has been benign.

Hasn't really started yet though has it? The UK is still in the EU and will be for quite a while longer. Its not until the UK does leave the EU that you might find some rather larger changes depending upon what is agreed upon, or not agreed upon.

[Kraut]

And 5 years from now let's see what state we're in shall we?

Is that a told-you-so smiley?

[GB9]

That group of people was much larger pre-Brexit.
Now that they've seen the shambles the country is in even the most Eurosceptic countries are now majority pro-EU.
And 5 years from now let's see what state we're in shall we?

Have you got any hard evidence for any of this or is it just your wish list?

[CretinWatcher]

Have you got any hard evidence for any of this or is it just your wish list?

Take yer pick.

Danish support for EU grows.
Support for Merkel grows
Spanish take the safe option and ignore their populists.

Why would anyone else want to shoot themselves in the foot?
Face it, most of the people who voted for Brexit have no clue how weak and depenedent on debt the country's economy is.

Danish desire to leave EU nosedives after Brexit | The Post
EU Support Surges in Denmark as Brexit Scare Spreads in Nordics - Bloomberg
Brexit: Angela Merkel's popularity grows in Germany after UK votes to leave EU | Europe | News | The Independent

[GB9]

Take yer pick.

Danish support for EU grows.
Support for Merkel grows
Spanish take the safe option and ignore their populists.

Why would anyone else want to shoot themselves in the foot?
Face it, most of the people who voted for Brexit have no clue how weak and depenedent on debt the country's economy is.

Danish desire to leave EU nosedives after Brexit | The Post
EU Support Surges in Denmark as Brexit Scare Spreads in Nordics - Bloomberg
Brexit: Angela Merkel's popularity grows in Germany after UK votes to leave EU | Europe | News | The Independent

Ok, I'll give you those 2.

What about the shambles point? I can't see a shambles. On the contrary, apart from the Labour party, things are looking pretty good. Ftse 100 well up. Sterling down less than 10%. No emergency budget. Informal talks to take place. Big investors going ahead with projects and declaring they will continue with the UK.

You didn't really think Bozza or Fara were going to be pm did you? I said it would be TM 2 weeks ago.

[darmstadt]

Get marching for Brexit....Pro-EU March For Unity Demonstration Cancelled One Day After It Was Announced

March for Unity’s event sought to persuade Prime Minister-in-waiting Theresa May to pause Britain’s exit from the European Union.

Campaigners who organised the event want to stall the activation of Article 50 which would lead to Britain leaving the EU.

For how ******* long? 2 years? 30 years? Brexiters make your ******* minds up...

[CretinWatcher]

Ok, I'll give you those 2.

What about the shambles point? I can't see a shambles. On the contrary, apart from the Labour party, things are looking pretty good. Ftse 100 well up. Sterling down less than 10%. No emergency budget. Informal talks to take place. Big investors going ahead with projects and declaring they will continue with the UK.

You didn't really think Bozza or Fara were going to be pm did you? I said it would be TM 2 weeks ago.

Well depends if you have your blinkers on or not, you bone-headed twit .

Leavers leaders done a runner.
FTSE 100 not that relevant to the British economy, FTSE 250 is - 10% down
Pound 10% down is v. bad news for the current account deficit - that's going to grow faster.
Do you know what a current account deficit is and how it grows a country's debt? IMF bailout anyone?
The non-emergency budget is coming soon with tax rises and spending cuts
Tory party abandons balancing the books (which is the main reason I voted for them)
One or 2 big investors ( Boeing and Siemens) have said they're going ahead with public sector contracts where we buy from them - probably scared we're going to pull out.

All this only 2 weeks from the result.
I think BB is right: the British economy will have death by a thousand cuts in the next few months and years
I'm planning on emigrating by the end of next year.