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Right wing rag banging on about working class and Brexit

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    #11
    Originally posted by AtW View Post
    There will be wholesale attack on working rights, that would cost working class most.
    From the large corporations that are so desperate for us to remain, presumably?

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      #12
      Originally posted by Chuck View Post
      Maybe it will. Maybe it won't. But it will be for US to decide.
      You have absolutely no idea if that is true.

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        #13
        Originally posted by Chuck View Post
        From the large corporations that are so desperate for us to remain, presumably?
        Yes, they (mostly) want to stay, but if UK indeed exits then might as well try to recover some losses.

        Cons will praise it as removing "red tape" from Brussels, and creating more "flexible" (to bend over) work force.

        Dyson will be really happy that he can sell his super powerful suckers in UK, even though he still won't be able to do so in EU.

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          #14
          Originally posted by AtW View Post
          Yes, they (mostly) want to stay, but if UK indeed exits then might as well try to recover some losses.

          Cons will praise it as removing "red tape" from Brussels, and creating more "flexible" (to bend over) work force.
          That's a massive assumption that there would be a Conservative government.

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            #15
            Originally posted by Chuck View Post
            Working class could gain the most if we restrict unfettered access to workers from outside the UK that is putting them on the breadline.
            And that's the nub of the problem. It's easy to convince people that an immigrant working for less can take a job away from a British person. It's a bit more difficult to explain how immigration means there's more jobs overall, even when the unemployment figures clearly back that up.
            Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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              #16
              Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
              And that's the nub of the problem. It's easy to convince people that an immigrant working for less can take a job away from a British person. It's a bit more difficult to explain how immigration means there's more jobs overall, even when the unemployment figures clearly back that up.
              There are potentially more jobs, but are there net more jobs after immigration? Under this government, yes.

              This is where Labour failed so miserably. (Ok, one of the ways).

              People don't care about GDP. They care about their own circumstances.

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                #17
                Originally posted by AtW View Post
                Yes, and also EU legislation designed to have level playing field for all EU members will be gone, so nevermind those paid holidays, overtime pay etc and welcome to kids digging coal in old mines.
                Chances are, someone in Westminster will notice the absence of that legislation and pass something equally as inept and confusing as the EU regulations.

                Brexit may or may not do a lot of different things, but I doubt it is going to hinder Westminster's ability to pass botched legislation, on things people care about, that only accomplishes part of its purposes whilst generating massive unintended consequences. I know some kids I'd really like to send down a mine without benefit of equipment, but sadly, Brexit isn't going to solve that one.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by AtW View Post
                  Working class is going to suffer most from Brexit.
                  This sounds like a communist speech.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
                    But you have absolutely no idea if that access will be restricted. Maybe the UK will join the EEA. Even Nigel Farage has 'absolutely no idea' what will happen if Britain leaves EU.
                    Agreed - anyone voting Brexit based purely on immigration may well feel let down.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by GB9 View Post
                      There are potentially more jobs, but are there net more jobs after immigration? Under this government, yes.

                      This is where Labour failed so miserably. (Ok, one of the ways).

                      People don't care about GDP. They care about their own circumstances.
                      You seem to be arguing for Bremain. Welcome aboard.
                      Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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