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Angela Merkel warning as she urges UK to stay in EU

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    #31
    Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
    As I said, in the circumstance that the EU disintegrates, I would see an increased risk.
    Explain a circumstance under which war would break out in Europe between nation states.

    We can already see the rise of the far right so civil war under the existing regime is far more likely
    Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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      #32
      Originally posted by BlasterBates View Post
      but what has climate change got to do with Brexit ?
      That is an interesting one. Presumably if we Brexit we can burn as much Oil as we like
      Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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        #33
        Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
        Which begs the question why are they coming to the uK and not going to Germany?
        Well they are, but only the skilled ones
        Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Old Greg View Post
          As I said, in the circumstance that the EU disintegrates, I would see an increased risk.
          I'd see a decreased risk. Wars start when there's a breakdown in democracy, which is what will happen if all the EU members continue to fall in line like blind rats behind Pied Piper Juncker and his mates.
          Originally posted by Nigel Farage MEP - 2016-06-24 04:00:00
          "I hope this victory brings down this failed project and leads us to a Europe of sovereign nation states, trading together, being friends together, cooperating together, and let's get rid of the flag, the anthem, Brussels, and all that has gone wrong."

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            #35
            Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
            How is it Germany controls house prices and we cannot?
            A lot more space and a declining population?

            Also culturally scarred from the hyper-inflation of the 20's & 30's that puts a cap on their willingness to borrow and their banks willingness to lend.

            Leading them to long-term rent rather then want to buy. An Englishman's home is his castle don't you know.

            And finally those that do buy have a tendency to live in their house for a long, long time.

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              #36
              Originally posted by DodgyAgent View Post
              Explain a circumstance under which war would break out in Europe between nation states.

              We can already see the rise of the far right so civil war under the existing regime is far more likely

              OK. Brexit happens.

              Has a severe effect on the UK economy. Leading to a reduction in the UK's willingness to contribute to the defensive of Europe ( read Germany for that ).

              Germany has to re-arm. She doesn't want to for "historical reasons", but feeling undefended against a resurgent Russia has no choice.

              German re-armament puts the bejeezus up France and Poland and most of the other smaller European countries.

              France et al increase their own defence spending as a result. Leading to an arms race within mainland Europe.

              Increasing defence spending depresses social economic activity in mainland Europe - resources are spent on guns not hospitals and schools.

              Europe's expansive & generous welfare states come under increasing pressure ( they cannot afford a decent army and welfare state ). Cuts in the welfare state cause a very unhappy European population who have grown used to the easy life.

              German taxpayers get fed up with paying for everyone else. And especially picking up 90% of the UK's "missing" contribution to the EU budget.

              Someone lights the fuse ....

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                #37
                Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
                .

                Someone lights the fuse ....
                And a cheque is sent to Putin
                Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyone

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
                  OK. Brexit happens.

                  Has a severe effect on the UK economy. Leading to a reduction in the UK's willingness to contribute to the defensive of Europe ( read Germany for that ).

                  Germany has to re-arm. She doesn't want to for "historical reasons", but feeling undefended against a resurgent Russia has no choice.

                  German re-armament puts the bejeezus up France and Poland and most of the other smaller European countries.

                  France et al increase their own defence spending as a result. Leading to an arms race within mainland Europe.

                  Increasing defence spending depresses social economic activity in mainland Europe - resources are spent on guns not hospitals and schools.

                  Europe's expansive & generous welfare states come under increasing pressure ( they cannot afford a decent army and welfare state ). Cuts in the welfare state cause a very unhappy European population who have grown used to the easy life.

                  German taxpayers get fed up with paying for everyone else. And especially picking up 90% of the UK's "missing" contribution to the EU budget.

                  Someone lights the fuse ....

                  You can tell all that from a Brexit?
                  Do you work for the OECD?
                  The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world that he didn't exist

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by tomtomagain View Post
                    OK. Brexit happens.

                    Has a severe effect on the UK economy. Leading to a reduction in the UK's willingness to contribute to the defensive of Europe ( read Germany for that ).

                    Germany has to re-arm. She doesn't want to for "historical reasons", but feeling undefended against a resurgent Russia has no choice.

                    German re-armament puts the bejeezus up France and Poland and most of the other smaller European countries.

                    France et al increase their own defence spending as a result. Leading to an arms race within mainland Europe.

                    Increasing defence spending depresses social economic activity in mainland Europe - resources are spent on guns not hospitals and schools.

                    Europe's expansive & generous welfare states come under increasing pressure ( they cannot afford a decent army and welfare state ). Cuts in the welfare state cause a very unhappy European population who have grown used to the easy life.

                    German taxpayers get fed up with paying for everyone else. And especially picking up 90% of the UK's "missing" contribution to the EU budget.

                    Someone lights the fuse ....
                    Great Jackanory story....

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by LondonManc View Post
                      You can tell all that from a Brexit?
                      Do you work for the OECD?
                      Nah, he forgot to mention the bit where we all get cancer and dinosaurs rise up and eat us all.

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