Angela Merkel warning as she urges UK to stay in EU

[LondonManc]

Germany need us in to help foot the bill as more and more countries collapse.

What the ignorant Bremainers are struggling with is that those campaigning for a Remain vote have most to lose - Cameron and Gideon will miss out on the post-Parliamentary EU gravy train. Big companies have either bet against an exit or believe they will lose out in some way rather than thinking about ways in which they could benefit.

Meantime, the average man on the street is getting shafted as house prices continue to rise, schools and other services get stretched and we have the EU trying to shoe-horn us into a one-size-fits-most Federal States of Europe.

[Hobosapien]

Didn't watch but read about Cameron's appearance on TV last night. Audience well up to speed on 'project fear', laughing about how UK out of EU raises risk of a war in Europe. Maybe it does, if the Germans start up their war machine in anger at the UK daring to disobey their plan. I wonder how Nato would handle that one.

Funniest bit, if I'm understanding it right, is that Cameron's thoughts on how to sort out immigration and get it down to his manifesto pledge of 10s of thousands (though technically a million is just lots of 10s of thousands) is to make the UK less attractive economically so they choose to stay in France/Germany. So, as he can't actually stop migration of EU citizens he can trash the economy worst than brexit is supposed to be capable of, to make EU citizens not want to come here.

[FatLazyContractor]

Meantime, the average man on the street is getting shafted .

That is BAU. Exactly how it is meant to be.

The peak performers become contractors.

[Old Greg]

Didn't watch but read about Cameron's appearance on TV last night. Audience well up to speed on 'project fear', laughing about how UK out of EU raises risk of a war in Europe. Maybe it does, if the Germans start up their war machine in anger at the UK daring to disobey their plan. I wonder how Nato would handle that one.

Funniest bit, if I'm understanding it right, is that Cameron's thoughts on how to sort out immigration and get it down to his manifesto pledge of 10s of thousands (though technically a million is just lots of 10s of thousands) is to make the UK less attractive economically so they choose to stay in France/Germany. So, as he can't actually stop migration of EU citizens he can trash the economy worst than brexit is supposed to be capable of, to make EU citizens not want to come here.

War in Europe has been a fairly regular occurrence over the last 25 years. The question is will we get more or less war. The risk probably leans towards more war if the EU disintegrates following Brexit. But it's hard to see how the risk increases after Brexit if there is no subsequent EU disintegration.

[rl4engc]

That's been the problem all the while. Brexiters are low IQ morons who cannot quite make up their pea sized brains and tulip infested minds.

Well if Brexiters have pea sized brains, Remainers must have brains the size of an electron by comparison.

Heard any positive "Stay in the EU because xyz" facts recently? Thought not.

My 0.001% reserve was in case the Remain Twunts pull something out of the bag at the last minute like "Actually it was all a bluff, we're gonna allow you to control your own laws again, your borders, reduce your contribution, and give every UK citizen £10,000 to boot. Oh and all that talk about a European Army, that was just the beer talking."

Then I might vote Remain.

[FatLazyContractor]

My 0.001% reserve was in case the Remain Twunts pull something out of the bag at the last minute like "Actually it was all a bluff, we're gonna allow you to control your own laws again, your borders, reduce your contribution, and give every UK citizen £10,000 to boot. Oh and all that talk about a European Army, that was just the beer talking."

Then I might vote Remain.

Ah, that makes you Brexiters greedy, money grabbing Basterwards then

[DodgyAgent]

War in Europe has been a fairly regular occurrence over the last 25 years. The question is will we get more or less war. The risk probably leans towards more war if the EU disintegrates following Brexit. But it's hard to see how the risk increases after Brexit if there is no subsequent EU disintegration.

Under what circumstances would there be war in Europe if the UK left the EU? If the UK remains in Europe there is far more chance of civil unrest and civil war as can be seen by the continuing rise of far right parties

[Old Greg]

Under what circumstances would there be war in Europe if the UK left the EU? If the UK remains in Europe there is far more chance of civil unrest and civil war as can be seen by the continuing rise of far right parties

As I said, in the circumstance that the EU disintegrates, I would see an increased risk.

[scooterscot]

Meantime, the average man on the street is getting shafted as house prices continue to rise, schools and other services get stretched and we have the EU trying to shoe-horn us into a one-size-fits-most Federal States of Europe.

How is it Germany controls house prices and we cannot?

How is it our property could be bought by anyone in the world who is not a resident?

How is it interest rates never go up and bring about the crash we need?

Blame the EU as much as you like, many of the above problems are of our own making. The biggest one of all is our debt. In or out our unmanageable debt will still be there.

[DodgyAgent]

They will be welcomed probably by the Germans who have currently have over 1 million vacancies they can't fill

Which begs the question why are they coming to the uK and not going to Germany?