Brexit and Contracting

[NorthWestPerm2Contr]

Yes.

Or at least you might need to apply for a work permit and have a client willing to sponsor you and prove that no local person can do the job.

The EU doesn't have to pass any law. Kippers in effect will have given up the right of you and I to work in 31 other countries. Thanks Kippers!

This is Bull.

I am yet to be offered a contract anywhere in Europe but have met lots from Europe coming here and competing with us folk. The UK gives a lot more to Europe than we get in return with that regards.

[SueEllen]

This is Bull.

I am yet to be offered a contract anywhere in Europe but have met lots from Europe coming here and competing with us folk. The UK gives a lot more to Europe than we get in return with that regards.

That's cos your tulip.

I've been offered many EU contracts....

[scooterscot]

Never recall having to refer to my uni books until i moved to Germany.

[darmstadt]

This is Bull.

I am yet to be offered a contract anywhere in Europe but have met lots from Europe coming here and competing with us folk. The UK gives a lot more to Europe than we get in return with that regards.

Nope this is bull. I turn down UK contracts because not only is the rate crap, the people I have to talk to about the projects are imbeciles (actually you only have to read the postings on here ) Maybe you don't get offered anything because, as has already been pointed, you're just not good enough

[jamesbrown]

Nope this is bull. I turn down UK contracts because not only is the rate crap, the people I have to talk to about the projects are imbeciles (actually you only have to read the postings on here ) Maybe you don't get offered anything because, as has already been pointed, you're just not good enough

You're getting awfully worked up over this whole Brexit fiasco.

[scooterscot]

Nope this is bull. I turn down UK contracts because not only is the rate crap, the people I have to talk to about the projects are imbeciles (actually you only have to read the postings on here ) Maybe you don't get offered anything because, as has already been pointed, you're just not good enough

I'll second the uk rates. Absolutely awful. Rates i got 10+ years ago cone ob the phone every other day.

[jamesbrown]

I'll second the uk rates. Absolutely awful. Rates i got 10+ years ago cone ob the phone every other day.

At the risk of propagating another worthless generalisation, the best rates (permie and contracts) are in the US; different league to Europe, including the UK. Depends entirely what you're doing though.

[scooterscot]

At the risk of propagating another worthless generalisation, the best rates (permie and contracts) are in the US; different league to Europe, including the UK. Depends entirely what you're doing though.

Even in the US some rates for 'real' engineers are rather naff. Have done a couple of consults, client nearly chocked on a $700 day rate. Something which I can easily achieve in Germany. Like you said, probably depends on industry.

[Mordac]

If the UK has the same agreements like Switzerland Norway or Iceland they still have to accept free movement and that's exactly what Brexiteers don't like. Smelly foreigners like us.

I have been offered contracts in the EU. Provided I speak fluent German. Fair playing-field my wotsit...

[jamesbrown]

Even in the US some rates for 'real' engineers are rather naff. Have done a couple of consults, client nearly chocked on a $700 day rate. Something which I can easily achieve in Germany. Like you said, probably depends on industry.

It just depends. The US is a big market, but if you can offer services that aren't oversupplied there (I'm not talking generic IT, as there isn't really a contract market for that anyway - they're saturated with H-1Bs), comparable rates are much higher, at least in my experience. Really, my point is that it's more about supply/demand, but there's an element of geography, and I wouldn't say the EU comes out particularly well in that hierarchy (the EU is also a big place though).