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[OwlHoot]

It is perfectly true. If they spend this figure on the NHS some farmers might go short, but that's another debate.

I was talking to several Exmoor farmers in my local only last weekend, and they're all emphatically in favour of Brexit, even at the risk of their handouts.

None are tenant farmers either, they own thousands of acres between them. So it isn't as if a reduction in subsidy would be "someone else's problem".

[VectraMan]

Except that figure is a fact (actually nearer £365m according to latest ONS figures.) You can go on about rebates all you like, the rebates are far from guaranteed.

The rebate is exactly guaranteed. Lets all thank Mrs Thatch. That makes it £250m a week that we actually pay to the EU, and get a lot back in subsidies and other investments which the UK government would pick up anyway. So what we could spend on the NHS is closer to £160m. Which is still quite a lot; I don't know why they don't just say that and avoid the accusation that they're peddling nonsense.

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-m...ee-55-million/

Both sides in the EU referendum campaign have been accused of peddling "misleading" figures and "implausible assumptions" by a committee of MPs.
The Treasury Select Committee calls Vote Leave's claim that Brexit would save £350m a week "deeply problematic".

EU referendum campaigns 'misleading voters' - BBC News

Pretty critical of the other side too. At least the £4.3K per year is an estimate and people know that, not that it makes it okay, whereas the £350m is presented as a hard fact and is blatantly untrue.

[FatLazyContractor]

I was talking to several Exmoor farmers in my local only last weekend, and they're all emphatically in favour of Brexit, even at the risk of their handouts.

Even I was talking to several Eastern European hookers in my local only last weekend, and they're all emphatically in favour of Bremain, even at the risk of extreme STDs.

[scooterscot]

I think it will be a Brexit, based on nothing more than:

1) DC and Osborne are sounding like scratched records with their nothing but "doom and gloom if we leave" bollocks, if the EU is so good why don't they sell it to the good people of UK.
2) .. yet the Remain exit camp are a lot more upbeat, focussed on facts not numbers pulled out of thin air.
3) Odds on Brexit are shortening; odds on Remain drifting.
4) The dialogue is shifting to more of a leadership battle between DC and Boris, even talk of "DC will need to stand aside if there is a Brexit".
5) The weather is hotting up, people start to feel better, a new start etc. Britain to regain it's Mojo.
6) A lot of people who hate DC (i.e. everyone that voted Labour/UKIP/etc. at last election) will vote Leave just to get him out of No.10.
7) An ex-coleagues day out last month, 10 of us, was split about 80/20 Leave/Stay.
8) Brexit camp are now talking policies, which is massively pissing off DC with his £4300 line.
9) A vote for Remain is not a vote for the Status Quo, people will start to realise this more and more.
10) I've got a couple of £K on a Brexit.

I recall Scottish independence hopefuls talking the take like this. When their horse pulled a no show they were totally depressed for three month or so.

[LondonManc]

The rebate is exactly guaranteed. Lets all thank Mrs Thatch. That makes it £250m a week that we actually pay to the EU, and get a lot back in subsidies and other investments which the UK government would pick up anyway. So what we could spend on the NHS is closer to £160m. Which is still quite a lot; I don't know why they don't just say that and avoid the accusation that they're peddling nonsense.

https://fullfact.org/europe/our-eu-m...ee-55-million/



EU referendum campaigns 'misleading voters' - BBC News

Pretty critical of the other side too. At least the £4.3K per year is an estimate and people know that, not that it makes it okay, whereas the £350m is presented as a hard fact and is blatantly untrue.

You're in denial.

The £350m is a fact.

Just like talking about revenue rather than looking at underlying prospects when people talk their company up.

[AtW]

I was talking to several Exmoor farmers in my local only last weekend, and they're all emphatically in favour of Brexit, even at the risk of their handouts. None are tenant farmers either, they own thousands of acres between them. So it isn't as if a reduction in subsidy would be "someone else's problem".

That's because they'd be able to charge Govt big premium for jacket potatoes given away to army of unemployed and homeless on streets of britain.

HTH

[NotAllThere]

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10) I've got a couple of £K on a Brexit.

Hmm. I've some money to invest in UK shares. Should I buy them now because shares will go up after a remain vote, or after brexit because shares will go down.

[DimPrawn]

Hmm. I've some money to invest in UK shares. Should I buy them now because shares will go up after a remain vote, or after brexit because shares will go down.

That's the billion $$$ question....

My take is we will Bremain, so buy now, sell after the victory has been celebrated by the big banks.

[minestrone]

I think remain will win but not by enough, the conservatives who will have a clear run at Government for 15 years will get a Eurosceptic PM after Dave who will continually wave another referendum in their face until we leave.

[shaunbhoy]

I recall Scottish independence hopefuls talking the take like this. When their horse pulled a no show they were totally depressed for three month or so.

Or a lot longer in many cases.