What do you call a group of old age pensioners handing out leaflets?

[PurpleGorilla]

No, it doesn't "come back as a 'rebate'". The rebate is applied before it's paid. Also, the "some" that doesn't come back because it never goes is around £100m per week, meaning we pay £250m per week.

But your figures also don't take account of the money that does come back, in that it's spent on the UK by the EU ("invested in our infrastructure" if you like), which is around £86m per week.

So the net contribution from the UK to the EU is around £164m per week.

Now, if you don't want us to be paying that, that's fine; but at least base your objections on the facts, rather than choosing a figure that exists only in some nebulous realm of accountancy but looks bigger. Size isn't everything

So the EU spends our money on us and takes a slice for the privilege.

Why can't we just cut out the middle man?

[NickFitz]

So the EU spends our money on us and takes a slice for the privilege.

Why can't we just cut out the middle man?

Dunno. I mean, if that would be a good thing, you'd expect somebody to have made out the case for it. But there's an entire campaign devoted to making out such a case, and all they've managed so far is to make themselves look like a bunch of braying idiots. Not a single sound, fact-based argument out of any of them.

It makes you wonder if maybe there isn't any such case to be made after all

[original PM]

Every country in the EU cannot put less in than they get out.

Or rather if they do there is a huge bubble waiting to burst.

[ASB]

Every country in the EU cannot put less in than they get out.

Or rather if they do there is a huge bubble waiting to burst.

Well ther have been quite a few questions over auditing. Who knows what might be lurking.

[DimPrawn]

One thing is for sure, adding Turkey and the other poor countries on the list to join is going to cost lots more billions to our bill.

Forecasted projections for immigration from the EU is to increase.

It's going to be very costly to vote in, way more than voting out. A vote in is a vote for huge increases in immigration (Turkey are to join the EU very soon), and a huge increase in costs and infrastructure costs. Taxes will rise rapidly if we stay in the EU, as many large poor countries are joining.

If this is the future you want, cripping levels of immigration, crippling tax rises to pay the EU, then go for it, and enjoy for the next 50 years your decision you made.

[AtW]

If this is the future you want, cripping levels of immigration, crippling tax rises to pay the EU, then go for it, and enjoy for the next 50 years your decision you made.

The beauty of EU is that if you don't like UK then you can move elsewhere in EU without visa tulip

That's why staying in EU is very important - otherwise all UK residents become hostages of Tory/Labour Scumverments.

[SueEllen]

One thing is for sure, adding Turkey and the other poor countries on the list to join is going to cost lots more billions to our bill.

Forecasted projections for immigration from the EU is to increase.

It's going to be very costly to vote in, way more than voting out. A vote in is a vote for huge increases in immigration (Turkey are to join the EU very soon), and a huge increase in costs and infrastructure costs. Taxes will rise rapidly if we stay in the EU, as many large poor countries are joining.

If this is the future you want, cripping levels of immigration, crippling tax rises to pay the EU, then go for it, and enjoy for the next 50 years your decision you made.

It's unlikely Turkey will join soon thanks to their human rights record. When you want to join the EU you have to clamp down on your bad behaviour 3 or so years before.

And if they do Germany will think of imaginative but legal ways to limit free movement of people which we can copy. After all it was the German government who won in court over paying work related benefits to an individual, which we have since copied.

[AtW]

And if they do Germany will think of imaginative but legal ways to limit free movement of people which we can copy. After all it was the German government who won in court over paying work related benefits to an individual, which we have since copied.

Yep, and at the same time UK Govt whined that EU is preventing them from doing it - liars and scumbags for whom EU is an easy target, it would be a disaster for UK Govt to leave EU - who would they blame for their own incompetence???

[SueEllen]

Yep, and at the same time UK Govt whined that EU is preventing them from doing it - liars and scumbags for whom EU is an easy target, it would be a disaster for UK Govt to leave EU - who would they blame for their own incompetence???

The working poor, the disabled, those on welfare benefits, those with more than 2 children, those whose families aren't traditional...

Oh they have done that already.

[MarillionFan]

I will be voting in. My Russian wife is voting in.
And my Polish tenants who get housing benefit are vote in.

You know it makes sense. Remain.