Voting to remain is not the same as "carry on as we are..."

[stek]

And here we have the intellectual level of the typical Brexiteer, thick as mince.
How do you intend to solve a trade dispute with the EU by force, you complete imbecile?

Well, we've got our two huge Floating Fortress Aircraft Carriers that none of our planes can operate from coming on stream in 2096.

That'll learn 'em.....

[sasguru]

Well, we've got our two huge Floating Fortress Aircraft Carriers that none of our planes can operate from coming on stream in 2096.

That'll learn 'em.....

Oh yeah forgot about those. Maybe we could borrow some French planes and bomb them to bits....oh wait .....

[Old Greg]

Oh yeah forgot about those. Maybe we could borrow some French planes and bomb them to bits....oh wait .....

We might finally be able to have a crack at Sealand.

[OwlHoot]

Oh what grounds has the EU failed?

Whilst I await your contrived answer here are some successes of the EU:

1 The end of war between European nations

2 Democracy is now flourishing in 27 countries (something the UK really hates)

3 Once-poor countries, such as Ireland, Greece and Portugal, are prospering

4 The creation of the world's largest internal trading market

5 Unparalleled rights for European consumers

6 Co-operation on continent-wide immigration policy

7 Co-operation on crime, through Europol

8 Laws that make it easier for British people to buy property in Europe

9 Cleaner beaches and rivers throughout Europe

10 Four weeks statutory paid holiday a year for workers in Europe

11 No death penalty (it is incompatible with EU membership)

12 Competition from privatised companies means cheaper phone calls

13 Small EU bureaucracy (24,000 employees, fewer than the BBC)

14 Making the French eat British beef again

15 Minority languages, such as Irish, Welsh and Catalan recognised and protected

16 Europe is helping to save the planet with regulatory cuts in CO2

17 One currency from Bantry to Berlin (but not Britain)

18 Europe-wide travel bans on tyrants such as Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe

19 The EU gives twice as much aid to developing countries as the United States

20 Strict safety standards for cars, buses and aircraft

21 Free medical help for tourists

22 EU peacekeepers operate in trouble spots throughout the world

23 Europe's single market has brought cheap flights to the masses, and new prosperity for forgotten cities

24 Introduction of pet passports

25 It now takes only 2 hrs 35 mins from London to Paris by Eurostar

26 Prospect of EU membership has forced modernisation on Turkey

27 Shopping without frontiers gives consumers more power to shape markets

28 Cheap travel and study programmes means greater mobility for Europe's youth

29 Food labelling is much clearer

30 No tiresome border checks (apart from in the UK)

31 Compensation for passengers suffering air delays

32 Strict ban on animal testing for the cosmetic industry

33 Greater protection for Europe's wildlife

34 Regional development fund has aided the deprived parts of Britain

35 European driving licences recognised across the EU

36 Britons now feel a lot less insular

37 Europe's bananas remain bent, despite sceptics' fears

38 Strong economic growth - greater than the United States last year

39 Single market has brought the best continental footballers to Britain

40 Human rights legislation has protected the rights of the individual

41 European Parliament provides democratic checks on all EU laws

42 EU gives more, not less, sovereignty to nation states

43 Maturing EU is a proper counterweight to the power of US and China

44 European immigration has boosted the British economy

45 Europeans are increasingly multilingual - except Britons, who are less so

46 Europe has set Britain an example how properly to fund a national health service

47 British restaurants now much more cosmopolitan

48 Total mobility for career professionals in Europe

49 Europe has revolutionised British attitudes to food and cooking

50 Lists like this drive the Eurosceptics mad

When you plagiarise a list from somewhere, it's bad form not to provide a link

Some of those points such as 42 are plain wrong, snuck in among a few remaing things that would have happened anyway without the EU.

46 Europe has set Britain an example how properly to fund a national health service ...

As we've been discussing elsewhere on CUK, that one may turn out to be a major sticking point for otherwise would-be remainers!

[scooterscot]

When you plagiarise a list from somewhere, it's bad form not to provide a link

Some of those points such as 42 are plain wrong, snuck in among a few remaing things that would have happened anyway without the EU.



As we've been discussing elsewhere on CUK, that one may turn out to be a major sticking point for otherwise would-be remainers!

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[SpontaneousOrder]

Oh what grounds has the EU failed?

Whilst I await your contrived answer here are some successes of the EU:


1 The end of war between European nations

2 Democracy is now flourishing in 27 countries (something the UK really hates)

3 Once-poor countries, such as Ireland, Greece and Portugal, are prospering

4 The creation of the world's largest internal trading market

5 Unparalleled rights for European consumers

6 Co-operation on continent-wide immigration policy

7 Co-operation on crime, through Europol

8 Laws that make it easier for British people to buy property in Europe

9 Cleaner beaches and rivers throughout Europe

10 Four weeks statutory paid holiday a year for workers in Europe

11 No death penalty (it is incompatible with EU membership)

12 Competition from privatised companies means cheaper phone calls

13 Small EU bureaucracy (24,000 employees, fewer than the BBC)

14 Making the French eat British beef again

15 Minority languages, such as Irish, Welsh and Catalan recognised and protected

16 Europe is helping to save the planet with regulatory cuts in CO2

17 One currency from Bantry to Berlin (but not Britain)

18 Europe-wide travel bans on tyrants such as Zimbabwe's Robert Mugabe

19 The EU gives twice as much aid to developing countries as the United States

20 Strict safety standards for cars, buses and aircraft

21 Free medical help for tourists

22 EU peacekeepers operate in trouble spots throughout the world

23 Europe's single market has brought cheap flights to the masses, and new prosperity for forgotten cities

24 Introduction of pet passports

25 It now takes only 2 hrs 35 mins from London to Paris by Eurostar

26 Prospect of EU membership has forced modernisation on Turkey

27 Shopping without frontiers gives consumers more power to shape markets

28 Cheap travel and study programmes means greater mobility for Europe's youth

29 Food labelling is much clearer

30 No tiresome border checks (apart from in the UK)

31 Compensation for passengers suffering air delays

32 Strict ban on animal testing for the cosmetic industry

33 Greater protection for Europe's wildlife

34 Regional development fund has aided the deprived parts of Britain

35 European driving licences recognised across the EU

36 Britons now feel a lot less insular

37 Europe's bananas remain bent, despite sceptics' fears

38 Strong economic growth - greater than the United States last year

39 Single market has brought the best continental footballers to Britain

40 Human rights legislation has protected the rights of the individual

41 European Parliament provides democratic checks on all EU laws

42 EU gives more, not less, sovereignty to nation states

43 Maturing EU is a proper counterweight to the power of US and China

44 European immigration has boosted the British economy

45 Europeans are increasingly multilingual - except Britons, who are less so

46 Europe has set Britain an example how properly to fund a national health service

47 British restaurants now much more cosmopolitan

48 Total mobility for career professionals in Europe

49 Europe has revolutionised British attitudes to food and cooking

50 Lists like this drive the Eurosceptics mad

Is that list a joke list?

That aside, Greece is a prosperous country?!

[jamesbrown]

here are some successes of the EU:
1 The end of war between European nations

mmm-hmm.

[scooterscot]

mmm-hmm.

Friday 11 March 2011 13.40 GMT

[jamesbrown]

Friday 11 March 2011 13.40 GMT

Was that the day you learned to read?

[Drei]

DimPrawn pretty much sums it up but will voice my concern on immigration.

The UK has the highest population per squared mile in the whole of Europe. The infrastructure is NOT that great so again, all the voters IN please tell us how will the UK survive when every other new country will pour in its people into the UK, we are probably around 70 mill now.

Guess living in London for the past 25 years it is a lot more obvious as you can see the numbers going up and up, the same trains used 8 years ago are now packed and need 3 4 extra trains to accommodate the people on the platforms, same roads are now full (used to commute by motorbike and gave up), school places, you could hardly hear any Eastern European languages where I live now that is all I hear, I am actually looking to move even further out due to this.

I must repeat that I am not against the people of EU. If the UK was the size of the US I couldn't care less, if the infrastructure was in place to handle millions upon millions I wouldn't care. It's like fitting cucumbers in a 500ml beer glass bottle, something will have to give and break, is it going to be the bottle or the cucumbers coming in? Since I live here and will do so and my children too... I worry about the future. I am not here as an economical immigrant just to make a quick buck without caring what happens to the country when I leave.