This Cameron non-story

[sasguru]

Of course you are not bitter at all.

Not at all. Unlike you. You come across as consumed with bitterness.

[sasguru]

A very balanced article. Not in the least bit right wing.

The graph comes from HMRC. You got anything at all that suggests those figures are wrong?

[BrilloPad]

Not at all. Unlike you. You come across as consumed with bitterness.

Only towards leeches like you. Most on here I get along very well with.

[sasguru]

Only towards leeches like you. Most on here I get along very well with.

In which way am I a leech, that causes you so much bitterness?

[DodgyAgent]

From that link:

"That is wrong. There is nothing wrong with people planning their tax affairs to invest in their pension and plan for their retirement – that sort of tax management is fine. But some of these schemes we have seen are quite frankly morally wrong." - Cameron 2012.

Which is fine. Carr was using a blatantly dodgy tax-evasion scheme as used by some on this forum.
Very different from planning to give your children your inheritance 7 years before you die or using investment trusts that everyone with a pension indirectly uses anyway.

There is nothing wrong in "organising" your tax affairs to minimise the amount you pay whether you are Jimmy carr, david Cameron, a contractor avoiding NI payments or a recruitment agent not paying tax for being allowed to breathe. What I detest are people like margaret Hodge and David Cameron who think it is morally wrong for other people to avoid tax while doing exactly the same themselves.

As Cameron said in 2012

"I just think this is completely wrong. People work hard, they pay their taxes, they save up to go to one of [Carr's] shows. They buy the tickets. He is taking the money from those tickets and he, as far as I can see, is putting all of that into some very dodgy tax avoiding schemes.

"That is wrong. There is nothing wrong with people planning their tax affairs to invest in their pension and plan for their retirement – that sort of tax management is fine. But some of these schemes we have seen are quite frankly morally wrong."

On Friday afternoon, Carr finally waded into the Cameron tax scandal with a simple tweet:

“I'm going to keep it classy," he posted on his Twitter account. "It would be ‘morally wrong’ and ‘hypocritical’ to comment on another individual’s tax affairs."


Sometimes the high road can be the most lethally devastating option of all.

[sasguru]

There is nothing wrong in "organising" your tax affairs to minimise the amount you pay whether you are Jimmy carr, david Cameron, a contractor avoiding NI payments or a recruitment agent not paying tax for being allowed to breathe. What I detest are people like margaret Hodge and David Cameron who think it is morally wrong for other people to avoid tax while doing exactly the same themselves.

As Cameron said in 2012

"I just think this is completely wrong. People work hard, they pay their taxes, they save up to go to one of [Carr's] shows. They buy the tickets. He is taking the money from those tickets and he, as far as I can see, is putting all of that into some very dodgy tax avoiding schemes.

"That is wrong. There is nothing wrong with people planning their tax affairs to invest in their pension and plan for their retirement – that sort of tax management is fine. But some of these schemes we have seen are quite frankly morally wrong."

On Friday afternoon, Carr finally waded into the Cameron tax scandal with a simple tweet:

“I'm going to keep it classy," he posted on his Twitter account. "It would be ‘morally wrong’ and ‘hypocritical’ to comment on another individual’s tax affairs."


Sometimes the high road can be the most lethally devastating option of all.

Whoosh! You've missed the point as usual.

Although your post has some merit as you've pointed out Margaret Hodge. Who benefited to the tune of 1.5 million from a similar instrument (which makes Cameron's puny 30K look like chump change) and is still grilling companies about non-payment of tax. No that's hypocrisy.

http://www.barkinganddagenhampost.co...ares_1_4054160

[sasguru]

So, to sum up, the approved process these days is to set up your affairs so that Hector gets as much as possible.

How very odd.

It seems such a long time since

Quite. I was under the impression that everyone minimised their tax in accordance with the law, keeping in mind, as all sensible people do, that schemes that promise you 80-90% of your gross income as take home are obviously dodgy.

PS where did that quote from, ZG?

[DodgyAgent]

Whoosh! You've missed the point as usual.

Although your post has some merit as you've pointed out Margaret Hodge. Who benefited to the tune of 1.5 million from a similar instrument (which makes Cameron's puny 30K look like chump change) and is still grilling companies about non-payment of tax. No that's hypocrisy.

Margaret Hodge accused of hypocrisy over alleged £1.5million tax haven shares - Politics - Barking and Dagenham Post

Which is the point I was making dickhead

[NotAllThere]

Which is the point I was making dickhead

He just can't bring himself to agree with an agent. It's morally wrong.

[FatLazyContractor]

Which is the point I was making dickhead sas

sas would suffice.