Stephen Crabb announces there will be no further cuts to welfare

[Chuck]

but the rest is the usual bolloxs

I'd disagree. That is a pretty good CV for an MP. At least he's done some work that is not only real-world, but actually worthy (apart form the "marketing consultant" bit).

He's clearly worked very hard to get where he is. I'd never heard of him before, but I suspect he may be one to keep an eye on.

[DodgyAgent]

Presumably you would like anyone on welfare to be euthanized?

These "silly" science fiction films are not looking so silly any more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_(film)

[DodgyAgent]

Don't be silly, welfare costs are dropping like a stone as the Tories get everyone into well-paid, rewarding, aspirational jobs.

In seriousness if unemployment is falling surely welfare costs must be dropping, as a share of GDP if not in absolute terms? Especially with welfare caps and other "stop taking the piss" measures.

They remain pretty constant thanks to too many wailing leftie liberals wanting to pay people to do nothing in order to make themselves seem virtuous

[VectraMan]

You've got to give them some praise for the way they've rallied round to make IDS look like a complete idiot.

Everything in this budget will be scrapped in a few months anyway. Brexit vote gives them all the justification they need for really savage spending cuts.

[d000hg]

They remain pretty constant thanks to too many wailing leftie liberals wanting to pay people to do nothing in order to make themselves seem virtuous

You're just spouting rhetoric without logic. Less unemployed means less on benefits. Caps on welfare means less benefits. Local caps on how much housing benefit can be claimed means less benefits.

Who is all this extra money going to? The welfare state has been in the hands of people who aren't 'wailing leftie liberals' for about 6 years now.

[BrilloPad]

These "silly" science fiction films are not looking so silly any more https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan%27s_Run_(film)

I'd vote for "Carrousel". For agents....

[VectraMan]

I'd vote for "Carrousel". For agents....

Yes, but Jenny Agutter should get to stay with us.

[DodgyAgent]

You're just spouting rhetoric without logic. Less unemployed means less on benefits. Caps on welfare means less benefits. Local caps on how much housing benefit can be claimed means less benefits.

Who is all this extra money going to? The welfare state has been in the hands of people who aren't 'wailing leftie liberals' for about 6 years now.

That may be the logic but the reality is that welfare has continued to rise in line with growth

[DodgyAgent]

I'd vote for "Carrousel". For agents....