Brexit...I have decided

[mudskipper]

The noise with Boris is just noise.

64% of the people who voted in the poll on this page said they would be more likely to vote 'out' as Boris was backing the Brexit.

Boris Johnson exclusive: There is only one way to get the change we want – vote to leave the EU - Telegraph

[DodgyAgent]

64% of the people who voted in the poll on this page said they would be more likely to vote 'out' as Boris was backing the Brexit.

Boris Johnson exclusive: There is only one way to get the change we want – vote to leave the EU - Telegraph

Incredible how people make their minds up on a subject according to who it will hurt the most. I loathe George galloway who is also pro brexit but I am not stupid enough to allow these people to determine what I believe. I just happen to agree with Boris and George on this one (and David Icke too)

[BrilloPad]

Incredible how people make their minds up on a subject according to who it will hurt the most. I loathe George galloway who is also pro brexit but I am not stupid enough to allow these people to determine what I believe. I just happen to agree with Boris and George on this one (and David Icke too)

I agree with a DA post. Is there any hope for me?

[tomtomagain]

Are we incapable of thinking on our own?

I dunno. What does Borris say?

[BrilloPad]

I dunno. What does Borris say?

Whatever David Icke says?

[2uk]

I wonder if they will kick workers out of employment and back to the UK and vice versa.

[vetran]

I wonder if they will kick workers out of employment and back to the UK and vice versa.

we could get Darmy back quick vote remain!

[BrilloPad]

I wonder if they will kick workers out of employment and back to the UK and vice versa.

And what about all the retiree expats in Spain?

[tomtomagain]

The problem, as I see it, is that actually there is no "correct" answer.

There are pro's and con's of staying. There are pro's and con's in leaving. You would have to be completely mad to believe there were no benefits of remaining within the EU OR to believe that it would be total disaster if the UK left.

All the future scenario's presented by by both camps are just guesses.

"If we leave, then UK jobs will vanish, we'll be marginalised and have less influence".

"If we stay we'll be smothered in red-tap, forced into a super-state and over-run by migrants".

Both statements could be true, both could be false, and both could happen whether we were IN or OUT.

Each side are now in full campaign mode so we are not going to get any impartial information as to what are the real benefits of leaving or staying.

I struggle to see what impact the EU really has on my personal life ( I know what it has supposed to have done, free movement, mobile phone tariffs reduce etc etc ) but I don't feel it. So therefore I find it hard come to a strong view on whether my life would be better IN or OUT.

Business-wise is similarly interesting. I run a small software company, selling a product I wrote to the world. My business is split 40% USA, 40% Europe ( ex-UK ) 10% UK 10% Rest of World.

I use a company called Avangate, based in Holland, as a software reseller and to process payments. Would they be unable to work with me if the UK left? No. I doubt it - can't see why they would want to lose my business. And if they did I'd simply move to another provider, probably US based.

So although I read and hear stories about "EU Red Tape" - I don't know what that means for me. What do I have to do as a business that that is "fault" of the EU? Nothing as far as I can tell.

And similarly, if we're OUT then I'm not going to lose access to the European market - I'd simply be reselling my product via a US company (they'd be the reseller) and the Europeans would trade quite happily with the US ( and therefore with me ).

So at the moment I am a "STAY". I would need to hear a compelling argument for me to switch sides. And that aint going to delivered by the blonde man-child that is Borris.

[darmstadt]

we could get Darmy back quick vote remain!

Actually I come back to the UK quite often to many companies, apparently they don't have the skills although sometimes its to move applications from major financial institutions offshore or into the cloud. You see, I can live in the EU and still work in the UK, freedom of movement and all that, at least until the 23rd depending upon how it goes...