Official EU referendum thread. Thursday June 23rd,

[PurpleGorilla]

Why do we need to be in the EU?

[DodgyAgent]

I see that David Icke confirms he wants out of the EU. Finally the out campaign has someone sane and rational to speak for them

I would rather follow him than some executive of a large corporate that enjoys the patronage of EU bureaucracy to keep small businesses out of their markets

[darmstadt]

I would rather follow him than some executive of a large corporate that enjoys the patronage of EU bureaucracy to keep small businesses out of their markets

What, unlike a UK corporate entity that tries to make doing business in the EU more expensive: UK small businesses spend £4bn a year in EU money transfers - Startups.co.uk: Starting a business advice and business ideas

or:

Jonathan Meare, 45, an inventor and director of jdmdesigns who launched the beach towel clip — an idea that came to him in Ibiza when his towel kept blowing away — says: “I received innovation vouchers, which come from European Funding, and registered my design in Europe, which covers the UK too. It was not expensive and was simple and straightforward. This is a EU benefit that many people might not realise they have.
“I also got help to launch in Europe from UK Trade & Investment, which was important as the beach season in the UK is quite short and I needed to make this a 12-month product. I have found that trading in Europe is as easy as the UK — in fact, I do not look at Europe as being foreign or overseas. The same rules apply, the majority of people I have contact with speak English, there is no problem with time zones and I am now selling in 27 countries. In fact, it is sometimes cheaper to send products to Europe than to parts of the UK.”

[vetran]

What, unlike a UK corporate entity that tries to make doing business in the EU more expensive: UK small businesses spend £4bn a year in EU money transfers - Startups.co.uk: Starting a business advice and business ideas

or:

and could be achieved with a common market without an EU superstate.

[2uk]

You funky IT contractors won't save the UK. It is headed OUT and fast. Close the door behind you.

lol only yes choises ?

[Troll]

You funky IT contractors won't save the UK. It is headed OUT and fast. Close the door behind you.

lol only yes choises ?

You should note it is predominately Scots & immigrants that want to stay in

Says it all really

[seanraaron]

and could be achieved with a common market without an EU superstate.

Which isn't being offered here.

I don't think there's immediately going to be a deal on the table in the event of a leave vote, or a smooth transition of any kind. Making that assumption would be just as silly for Scotland leaving the UK.

The question is really if this is that raw a deal as things stand or if this is a desire to see things blow up without a lot of rational thought behind it?

[BrilloPad]

the majority of people I have contact with speak English

That is not going to change if UK leaves the EU. The EU are still going to be speaking American.

[scooterscot]

You should note it is predominately Scots & immigrants that want to stay in

Says it all really

You know what they say. The enemy of my enemy is my friend n all dat.

[Bee]

On the 24th June, Mr. Kipper was off to Benidorm for his annual 2 week holiday of sun, sea, debauchery and full English breakfast. Upon arriving at the airport, having dutifully checked and bought his duty free Lucky Strike and Gordons Gin he found to his consternation, after queuing for 3 hours, that his flight had been cancelled due to volcanic activity in the Outer Hebrides. Upon requesting a hotel, refreshments and expenses for the night he was politely informed that, sorry, as the UK is not longer part of the EU, that law doesn't apply to flights originating in the UK, sorry.

After an expensive night at the Luton Airport Hilton, Mr. Kipper eventually managed to get his flight a paltrey 24 hours later (the volcanic activity was actually a large disturbance in Scotland attributed to a visit by David Cameron there and copious amount of Buckfast and nationalistic jingoism) and arrived safely in Magaluf, sorry, Benidorm. Upon walking into the arrivals he noticed 2 queues, one long and slow moving and another breezing through the formalities. Naturally, being a person of self importance he joined the quicker queue but upon arriving at the passport control was told that this queue was for EU members only and he needs to join the other queue, non-EU nationals. Disgruntled, hot and sweaty with complaints dropping out about ignorant foreigners he eventually joins the correct queue. After an interminable wait he once again reaches the passport officer who asks for his visa. What visa, asks our intrepid traveler, why the visa to enter an EU country from a non-EU country of course, that's normal in these cases. Luckily for him the passport officer points to the forms at the back of the hall which he can fill in and then return to the queue. Our, now not a happy camper, does the needful and queues again. Upon presenting his filled in visa he is asked for a sum of 30€ to cover administrative charges, which is normal although if he had applied while still in his non-EU country directly to the Embassy it would have only been €10. Using his AMEX, as his Lloyds Bank debit card is not accepted here, our intrepid traveler arrives in a foreign land.

After arriving at his hotel, his first task to call back to the UK and inform his colleagues and friends about the hassle he has had and about how many beers he is going to need to relax. Sadly for him, upon his return to the UK he'll receive a phone bill equivalent to his monthly mortgage due to the EU roaming charge directive not applying to non-EU telephones, still not to worry, there's all that cheap alcohol and food to be had.

Once again, our man on the spot is in for a shock, there is no English beer or food as due to EU health and food regulations, it is too costly to import and much wouldn't get through the testing. The trip back home is no easier and upon his return he swears never to go abroad again, until next time.

Probably in Spain if the tourist does not belong to the schengen space, they needs to go to Non-EU queue, unless you have a bilatral agreement with the destination country, like Portugal have with UK.