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Fake CV from agent caught. oops
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Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View PostIs that your excuse to be a chunt? Seriously?Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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shock horror...
some people feel that when it comes to making money you can chuck your morals out of the window.
not exactly news though?Comment
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The way I look at this and being realistic
Contractors - Some of them massively over exaggerate their CV and then get in front of the client with a lot of BS. They land the role and get a massive pay out when they don't really produce much at all for the money they are on. Some clients will push them off early but the majority don't, which means they have wasted money.
Agents - They use underhand tactics to get CVs in by posting fake adverts, etc. They then try and nick each others clients by underhand tactics. Another tactic is getting in touch with the hiring manager which is a no, no by most companies however some hiring managers like to talk to agencies. They are trying to sell their contractor as the best which helps us if it works but also shoots in the foot solidly if the company finds out or the hiring manager doesn't like it.
Clients - They try and bring in contractors on a budget. They will quite happily wield a pay cut axe at you or cancel a project after 5 days of you being on site. The client will try tactics like interview you for a contractor position and then turn you down but have the cheek to offer you a permie position. If they think I am good enough to join them long term then quite frankly I am good enough to join them on a contractor position.
The common ground - There are a minority out there who ruin the reputation of an industry however at the end of the day we are all trying to get paid. I guess some people just don't have any morals and willing to push the boundaries. Those who do will run the risk of ruining their professional reputation and get found out.Comment
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Originally posted by ContractorHardman View PostThe way I look at this and being realistic
Contractors - Some of them massively over exaggerate their CV and then get in front of the client with a lot of BS. They land the role and get a massive pay out when they don't really produce much at all for the money they are on. Some clients will push them off early but the majority don't, which means they have wasted money.
Agents - They use underhand tactics to get CVs in by posting fake adverts, etc. They then try and nick each others clients by underhand tactics. Another tactic is getting in touch with the hiring manager which is a no, no by most companies however some hiring managers like to talk to agencies. They are trying to sell their contractor as the best which helps us if it works but also shoots in the foot solidly if the company finds out or the hiring manager doesn't like it.
Clients - They try and bring in contractors on a budget. They will quite happily wield a pay cut axe at you or cancel a project after 5 days of you being on site. The client will try tactics like interview you for a contractor position and then turn you down but have the cheek to offer you a permie position. If they think I am good enough to join them long term then quite frankly I am good enough to join them on a contractor position.
The common ground - There are a minority out there who ruin the reputation of an industry however at the end of the day we are all trying to get paid. I guess some people just don't have any morals and willing to push the boundaries. Those who do will run the risk of ruining their professional reputation and get found out.
Deluded Permies - The majority. Minority of who boast about first class travel, champagnes, BTLs and shares.Comment
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Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View PostAnd finally...
Deluded Permies - The majority. Minority of who boast about first class travel, champagnes, BTLs and shares.Let us not forget EU open doors immigration benefits IT contractors more than anyoneComment
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Originally posted by FatLazyContractor View PostAnd finally...
Deluded Permies - The majority. Minority of who boast about first class travel, champagnes, BTLs and shares. They sit there saying how happy they are with their career and their salary. They are in no way envious of how you earn 3 times what they earn. The ultimate permie will have been there 5 years plus and speak of how they have a team of people who can do your job whilst promoting that the company has always done right by themComment
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Originally posted by Stevie Wonder BoySo that makes it alright? There are other people that are just as morally deficient, but much smarter and better at the game?
Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear ... Diving for the bottom now ..."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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