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Originally posted by vetran View PostOriginally posted by NotAllThere View PostWhile I agree with the subsidy removal, it still seems a bit tough for someone to be thrown out of their rented family home after 25 years, as could happen.
its not theirs. If they want it to be theirs then they need to buy it. If they do that then sooner or later they will have to sell it so they can subsidise someone else's care home fees as well as their own.
Mind you, my wife and I are thinking of moving into an apartment and giving the house (we own) to the kids.Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostOk. While I agree with the subsidy removal, it still seems a bit tough for someone be thrown out of the home where they established their family, after 25 years.
Mind you, my wife and I are thinking of moving into an apartment and giving the house (we own) to the kids.
average weekly rental £78.8 a week / £320 month for all council properties seems a little low compared to market rents of £841.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...ancies#history
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...s-england-only
I used to quite like drinking in my local because it was cheap & convenient, after years of patronage it was converted into housing. Should I have jumped up & down or just realised that things change? Because I was a client not the owner I would have no part in the decision.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View PostIt might seem tough but as they had a subsidised rent for 25 years paid for by people earning less than them it seems more than fair.
average weekly rental £78.8 a week / £320 month for all council properties seems a little low compared to market rents of £841.
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...ancies#history
https://www.gov.uk/government/statis...s-england-only
I used to quite like drinking in my local because it was cheap & convenient, after years of patronage it was converted into housing. Should I have jumped up & down or just realised that things change? Because I was a client not the owner I would have no part in the decision.Socialism is inseparably interwoven with totalitarianism and the abject worship of the state.
No Socialist Government conducting the entire life and industry of the country could afford to allow free, sharp, or violently-worded expressions of public discontent.Comment
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The rent isn't subsidised though unless they are on benefits.
In lots of cases councils got the land or buildings cheaper than what they would have got it on the market at that time. Even if it was at market rates then it would still cost a lot less then to build housing today.
I still have relations who are near the end of paying off their mortgages in London and the amount they pay is way far less than to rent a room in a shared house in a scummy part of the SE let alone London."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by SueEllen View PostThe rent isn't subsidised though unless they are on benefits..
Council House 3 bed 1960's semi with suitable garden £75
2 bed flat £800/month.
Higher Earners To Lose Thousands In Social Housing Subsidy | Welfare Weekly
Bob Crowe was > £150k and paid £340 rent.
watch the BMWs & Mercs outside the council houses.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by vetran View PostIt is, housing association 3 bed terrace with a car space garden £127 a week.
Council House 3 bed 1960's semi with suitable garden £75
2 bed flat £800/month.
Higher Earners To Lose Thousands In Social Housing Subsidy | Welfare Weekly
Bob Crowe was > £150k and paid £340 rent.
watch the BMWs & Mercs outside the council houses.
While they both are social housing:
1. You can't do shared ownership (yet) with council housing.
2.The rules of inheriting the tenancy are completely different as in your can't with housing association properties.
3. The rules on taking in lodgers are different. Councils will turn a blind eye as long as the tenant(s) are living there, but housing associations won't.*
etc.
This means if you can get a council house you and your family are onto a winner even if you never buy it, but if you get a housing association property while you personally are lucky your descendants aren't.
Council houses where built when land and housing were cheaper but housing association's land was purchased at modern prices. So councils, at least where I am, charge less for rent than housing associations.
*Council tenants will happily tell you all the rules there as housing association tenants won't unless they are moaning about their landlord or offering you a cheap place to lodge."You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JRComment
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Originally posted by MicrosoftBob View PostNot forgetting that repairs to the property are free and any refurbishment is free, unlike with BTLs were you've got more chance of your rent going down that having any work done to the rental cash cowIn Scooter we trustComment
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Originally posted by MrMarkyMark View PostYou've talked about your brother in law, before.
Can I ask, are all your family on the dole?
Maybe, its genetic and you are affected, less than most
Two nephews however are lazy sods who never intend to work.
This is south wales though. Its not uncommon for people to be without work. There are genuine cases too.
I appreciate other parts of the country are not like this. Years ago I did my sandwich year in college working in Newbury, Berks (a fairly affluent part of the country).
Coming from the welsh valleys I was amazed that everyone could get a job, do what they want, quit jobs, get another one easily etc.Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by NotAllThere View PostWhile I agree with the subsidy removal, it still seems a bit tough for someone to be thrown out of their family home after 25 years, as could happen.
I agree its caused a problem because they should never have been able to live there for free that long.Rhyddid i lofnod psychocandy!!!!Comment
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