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UK EU in/out or shake it all about poll - 2nd attempt

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    #11
    Originally posted by LucidDementia View Post
    The EU is a bureaucratic dictatorship we should be no part of. Democracy is a poor system but it's about as good as we can hope for. The EU is not democratic.
    Except for all the democracy.
    Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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      #12
      Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
      Didn’t they do that with the Danish and Irish?
      And the Dutch
      I'm a smug bastard.

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        #13
        Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
        Except for all the democracy.
        The EU is run by an unelected closed council. Not quite sure how that's democratic.
        I'm a smug bastard.

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          #14
          Originally posted by LucidDementia View Post
          The EU is run by an unelected closed council. Not quite sure how that's democratic.
          That's the Kippers imagined EU. The actual real life EU is run by people chosen by democratically elected representatives of the people, both MEPs and heads of states. It's the same as the UK cabinet. None of us get to choose them either (they don't have to be MPs).
          Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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            #15
            Originally posted by LucidDementia View Post
            The EU is run by an unelected closed council. Not quite sure how that's democratic.
            It's a good idea to read this so you don't sound ignorant in debates about the EU.
            "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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              #16
              Originally posted by SueEllen View Post
              It's a good idea to read this so you don't sound ignorant in debates about the EU.
              Or this:

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Commission

              But not this:

              Latest UK and World News, Sport and Comment | Daily Express

              Which is where I'm sure he gets his information.
              Will work inside IR35. Or for food.

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                #17
                I'm not even going to rise to this.

                The EU website and Wikipedia. Thanks. And yes, I get my information from some tulipty rag.
                Good luck to you.
                I'm a smug bastard.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by LucidDementia View Post
                  This. Sadly.
                  The EU is a bureaucratic dictatorship we should be no part of. Democracy is a poor system but it's about as good as we can hope for. The EU is not democratic.

                  The house of Lords passes laws that dictate how you live. Do you remember voting for the peers? I don't.
                  "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by scooterscot View Post
                    The house of Lords passes laws that dictate how you live. Do you remember voting for the peers? I don't.
                    But on occasions they have done their job and held the House of Commons to account.
                    "You’re just a bad memory who doesn’t know when to go away" JR

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by VectraMan View Post
                      This is what will happen:

                      A minority will vote to leave, but because the people who want change are much more motivated to vote than those that just want to be left alone the out campaign will win. A great day for democracy.
                      Worked for Scotland didn't it!
                      Originally posted by Stevie Wonder Boy
                      I can't see any way to do it can you please advise?

                      I want my account deleted and all of my information removed, I want to invoke my right to be forgotten.

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