Time to privatise the NHS

[zemoxyl]

Go Private then !

If you don't like the NHS then disappear to the numerous private health care providers and leave the NHS to those of us who do use it and appreciate it. I would have thought this pretty straightforward for the the millionaire contractors starting this thread.

[NickFitz]

When I bought my new car, the salesman offered to pick me up from the train station and bring me to the show-room. Customer service. SE's line seems an odd and arbitrary one to draw.

When I had a heart attack, the NHS came and picked me up from home and brought me to the cath lab for an angioplasty at six o'clock on a Sunday evening, in deep snow. Seemed like excellent service to me, despite the fact that there was no marketplace from which I could choose my paramedic or cardiologist.

[SueEllen]

When I bought my new car, the salesman offered to pick me up from the train station and bring me to the show-room. Customer service. SE's line seems an odd and arbitrary one to draw.

The NHS is about curing illness not providing care for those who they have treated and don't consider ill anymore. So it's invalid to compare it to a money making organisation.

The aim once you have been treated is to get you out of hospital as soon as possible. In the case of old people they try and get them out of hospital as it's know they get worse in hospital e.g. come in mobile and leave unable to walk, and are more likely to die.

If you state that there is someone to take care of you they will chuck you out. So they wouldn't have chucked him out if he hadn't of said he has a son and daughter-in-law who could take care of him. The fact the PC couldn't isn't the hospital's fault as they presume once you are over about 10 , don't have learning difficulties or dementia what you say is true.

If PC couldn't care for his dad then he should have told his dad that clearly before he went into hospital like some of the OAPs I've met. He also
should have also said it on the phone when the nurse rang him to collect his dad.

And yes I've had family and friends' chucked out who haven't been mobile and able to clean themselves.

[darmstadt]

What do mean they starve the NHS of resources?. They do not. It is people like you that think money grows on trees who comes up with all the cliche crap that you spew out. If the NHS had 100% of our income (which is what the left really believe) it would still fail so many people.
The NHS needs the rigors of the private sector (which does not necessarily mean privatising it) to make it work. If BP, UBS, HSBC can nail down their contractor suppliers to tiny margins why cant the NHS for example?
It is people like you that make the NHS so damned inefficient.

They already do, don't they, and is that working well?

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[BolshieBastard]

After first hand experience of the attitude of a lot of the staff this weekend, there's just no accountability and no-one gives a toss. Time to rip it up and start again.

Dad is 81 only got one good eye. Had cataract surgery last surgery on the good eye. Turfed him out 9am friday morning practically blind. He lives alone, so of course, cant cook, cant read his tablet boxes, cant do his eye drops, cant used the phone, can hardly go to the toilet etc.

So I've been back and fore all weekend. Try to get some help. Must have argued with about 10 different people trying to get someone in to help him. Attitude you get back is not my problem, he should have stayed in hospital, more then my jobs worth.

My wifes a nurse, I know a lot of good nurses, but some of these people should be ashamed of themselves. /Rantover.

What utter bollocks.

All YOU have to do is PAY for your treatment if you do not like what you get from the NHS.

But you're just one huge whingebag as your history of posts proves.

[DodgyAgent]

If you don't like the NHS then disappear to the numerous private health care providers and leave the NHS to those of us who do use it and appreciate it. I would have thought this pretty straightforward for the the millionaire contractors starting this thread.

I am fine with that as long as I get the tax refund for not using the NHS

[DimPrawn]

I am fine with that as long as I get the tax refund for not using the NHS

Actually in all seriousness, private treatment (once referred by a GP) should be tax deductable as individuals (you should be able to enter the amounts spent on your tax return).

This seems fair to me.

[FatLazyContractor]

Actually in all seriousness, private treatment (once referred by a GP) should be tax deductable as individuals (you should be able to enter the amounts spent on your tax return).

This seems fair to me.

You are not as Dim as your ID

[MrMarkyMark]

Actually in all seriousness, private treatment (once referred by a GP) should be tax deductable as individuals (you should be able to enter the amounts spent on your tax return).

This seems fair to me.

Exactly, I mean they are always on about choices, right?

As it is totally fair, it just won't happen

[darmstadt]

Actually in all seriousness, private treatment (once referred by a GP) should be tax deductable as individuals (you should be able to enter the amounts spent on your tax return).

This seems fair to me.

Well as a self employed person here I pay both employer and employee's contributions and they go on my tax return and I get the tax back