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The Tories have 'killed buy-to-let for the middle-classes'
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostOn that basis, I'd suggest they both steer well clear of decisions involving basic arithmetic."The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." CiceroComment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostI know that. Now tell me why Cons did not introduce those massive taxes in last 5 years when they were in power with LibDems. Do you think LibDems stopped them from introducing divi tax? Or other taxes??? The deal was that Cons would mostly deal with deficit the right way - REDUCTION IN GOVT SPENDING. That did not happen and it's still not happening - now Osborne is effectively banking on redefined projections to hope they would work out, he is not cutting spending, but he sure as feck jacked up taxes - that should have been declared in manifesto!!!
Trying to get the balance right between tax rises and spending cuts is tricky, too much will depress growth and this was delicate immediately after 2010.
The dividend tax was mentioned in the 2015 LibDem manifesto so they possibly copied it from there.
Whilst spending has continued to go up, the rate of growth is slower as cuts have been made and will be made.
At the end of the day, a Labour government will spend more, tax more and cut less - until one day, and I have no idea when this will be, we will be in the same position as Greece and finally we will have to face financial reality.
I would like to see a long term plan to start paying off the debt once the deficit has gone, I suspect any government will not be able to resist the temptation to spend any spare cash and/or offer tax cuts."The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." CiceroComment
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Originally posted by Waldorf View PostAt the end of the day, a Labour government will spend more, tax more and cut less - until one day, and I have no idea when this will be, we will be in the same position as Greece and finally we will have to face financial reality.Comment
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostYou haven't a clue.
Build more houses, have fewer people wanting them. job done.Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Comment
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Originally posted by Waldorf View Postuntil one day, and I have no idea when this will be, we will be in the same position as Greece and finally we will have to face financial reality.Comment
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Originally posted by tomtomagain View PostWe will never be in the same position as Greece as the government of the day can simply create money as required. Might cause hyper-inflation and a run on the pound, but the government will always be able to pay its debts.Comment
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Originally posted by AtW View PostWaldorf is one deluded tory voter... I can just see him in a ditch with his last breath saying that it would have been worse under Labour...Comment
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Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View PostLabour/brown does deserve a special kicking for the f up of a mess they made with the economy.
And how long have the tories with their libdem fiends been in power? Osborne said the deficit would be wiped out by the end of the last Parliament yet, here we are still with a massive PSBR.
Wake up you gimp!I couldn't give two fornicators! Yes, really!Comment
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It may have been a global meltdown but Labour also contributed to the mess domestically. When the crash did hit the UK was not well placed to deal with it, since it had been overspending and had the same foolish monetary policy in place as the US. But I'm not going to disagree on the Tories' incompetence. Especially given this recent budget/AS. Next crash will be as bad if not worse.Last edited by Zero Liability; 30 November 2015, 07:58.Comment
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